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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of the food arrived 1947 the Army Air

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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church on the game-changer Radio Network

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welcome

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math says how you doing how you doing

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I'm doing fantastic things for asking

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right all all right let's do this

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today's Tuesday December 11th 2018

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345 days into the New Year just 20 days

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in the middle of downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for KJ CR the game

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changer Network and K GRA the planet

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I am your host Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing Tuesday

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nights

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that's right and tonight is night two of

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our influencer week and tonight it's

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Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot

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that's right she's here

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she's gonna join up with us at the

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bottom of the hour tomorrow night Tyler

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Glockner from security is here for his

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first ever interview that's right that's

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going down tomorrow and I'm pretty

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excited about that so great week last

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night you know when do you have

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something like influencer week and you

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warm things up with somebody like Billy

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Carson last night tonight Kerry Cassidy

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lines but we have Teresa and Aris with

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us of divine frequency influencers all

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just a great opportunity for all of us

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and it's a it's it's extraordinary what

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they all have accomplished so there you

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there I don't know but the links to it

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that's where you want to go and hang out

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show again like every other night we're

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gonna burn through probably uh one two

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or three thousand tweets and to see that

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and hang out we use a tweet deck and

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most of the fader nots use TweetDeck

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because it loads automatically like it's

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doing right now click click click click

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you hear me going click click

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click because you're watching it to go

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click click click so you know and do

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that and that's the easy way to go

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all right TweetDeck you can also email

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Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com cranking

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down to the end of the year and today is

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the 11th and when I said that a few

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minutes ago you know 25 days left 2423

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2019 we're here we're at the end of the

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year so what are you gonna be doing

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right do you have your holiday parties

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and Christmas parties New Year's parties

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all set up well you can come and hang

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out with us the fade to black holiday

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slash Christmas party is gonna be

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December 26th at the world-famous

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rainbow Bar and Grill on the Sunset

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Strip right here in Hollywood California

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so come and hang out with us all you

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have to do you can do a couple of things

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one shoot me an email right Jimmy and

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Jimmy Trudeau calm Jimmy here here here

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we are we're gonna attend shoot me an

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email you can do that right number two

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go to our facebook links which we have

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up in twitter and head over to facebook

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view our little events thing and let us

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know that you're going to be attending

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ok and the third thing which is the last

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resort you can just show up and go up to

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the door to the big burly door dude and

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go alright I'm here for the fade to

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black party and he's gonna let you win

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alright but then I don't get a head

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count so it would be really nice if you

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email myself or Rita or let us know over

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on Facebook ok and we can get a rough

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count and there you go we've got room

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for about two hundred two hundred me you

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250 it's probably getting getting a

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little cramped at that point so let us

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know okay there you go alright so come

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and spend it with us I got an email I

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should almost read this on the air I

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wonder if he would care hold on for a

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second let me I didn't

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I didn't plan on doing this but so you

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know what I won't say his last name I

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got this email from Peter today it says

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hey Jimmy

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there are 12 days of christmas dude all

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the way to three kings day so you can

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still say or still still call your

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holiday party a Christmas party quoting

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you aye aye aye Peter I wrote him back

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and said then noted there are twelve

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days of Christmas so I you know I I feel

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I feel that I'm not going to have a fact

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check right that I'm gonna have to do

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some kind of redaction some kind of

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retraction redaction and go okay man so

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I guess I'm in the clear so Rita we can

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call it a Christmas party dang it dang

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it it's a holiday / Christmas party

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there you go December 26th alright and

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don't forget right after that come and

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join us for the 2019 conscious life Expo

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right here in Los Angeles at the LAX

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Hilton right at the end of February all

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of the information that you need is just

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click on the conscious life banner at

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Jimmy Torrio calm it'll take you

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straight over where you can get a full

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conference schedule and get your tickets

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and information and and of course

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staying at the LAX Hilton to is a pretty

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cool thing to do this year we are

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celebrating the 50th anniversary of

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Chariots of the Gods with Erich von

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däniken and I will be hosting the panel

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the ancient aliens panel with Eric and

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Linda Moulton Howe NACE Martell Billy

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Carson and David Wilcock that'll be on

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Friday night that's one of the opening

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opening events for the weekend and

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that's downstairs in the big main

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ballroom and so you've got to get that's

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going to be sold out so you want to get

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your tickets in advance for that but

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that's good to be really cool because we

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are celebrating with Eric and you know

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there's going to be some pretty cool

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festivities going on I can't leak the

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information

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I can't leak it in advance I can't

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but you're gonna want to be there okay

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this year 50 speakers including George

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bridge Theresa Ian Aris it's going to be

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great the 2019 conscious life Expo all

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right now I got a bunch of I don't know

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you know what happened with this

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oh hey Rita Rita can you bring me the

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night vision can he bring it sits in her

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office

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we had it during okay maybe I'll get it

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in here on the camera the new Orion

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night vision from Hoffman's optics so I

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got all this email and I got a couple of

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tweeted detects about night vision

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goggles and I remembered

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it's the season right it's Christmas so

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that's what's going on right now and I

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get it so you want to go to Hoffman's

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optics.com the links are over at Jimmy

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Church radio calm when you get into the

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homepage you scroll to the bottom and

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you will see all of the Jimmy Church

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edition night-vision goggles there are

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4-1 monocular and they're all at the

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bottom of the page and you really at end

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there's some extremely affordable stuff

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there too as well all the way up to the

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new Gen 4 that's right you heard me the

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new gen 4 you've got to go and check

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them out everything the complete product

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line is right there all right Hoffman's

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optics.com give Alec Hoffman a call all

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right where are we at don't forget to

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become a fader not over in our

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membership section on the site you get

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hats t-shirts everything's autographed

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that's cool remember those hats are only

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available through the membership they're

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not for sale

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I don't give them away you can

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bag you can do whatever you want Jimmy

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man I just lost my job

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can you give me a hat nope cannot do it

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nope hey man I got a flat tire on the

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way here and I spent my money on the

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flat tire can you give me a hat nope

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cannot I got to respect my word my word

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is you only get the hats become a game

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changer and those that have become a

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game changer they know how exclusive

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those hats are right and when you're

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wearing the hat and you're walking at a

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conference you're walking down the

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street you're at the mall somebody walks

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past you with the fade to black hat on

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you know he's a game changer he's a

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fader not along with you and that's the

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only way you got those hats of course

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unless you're mica from the United

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Kingdom but that's an exception that

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only happened once all right all right

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become a fader not today over in our

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start diet

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course or barring opt our tent I just

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say that Hoffmans optics but of course

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coffee all right here we go let's get

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this show crackin happy birthday - today

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Nikki Sixx that's right Motley Crue

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bassist Nikki Sixx is 60 that's a lot of

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sixes Nikki Sixx is 60 most death today

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is 45 and I went around and checked on

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this I almost don't buy that most death

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is 45 years old I thought he was much

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older Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy

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right that came out ten years ago so he

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was only 35 and that came out be kind

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rewind I watched

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that movie came out in like 1971 you

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know how can most def be 45 years old

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and I am going to text Rita right now

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I'm wondering where these night visions

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are so I'm gonna do this alright bring

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me the night vision the new ones that's

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what I got to do oh man I'm in trouble

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now I'm in so much trouble okay where am

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I

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years old and our dead guy's birthday

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today is Vampira 1922 to 2008 died at

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the age of 85 one of Hollywood's first

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horror glamour girls that's right

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Vampira best known though for starring

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in that Edie wood cult film classic plan

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9 from outer space which I have on VHS

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and DVD I got two versions of it on DVD

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that's right plan 9 from outer space

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all right on this day in history check

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this out

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December 11th is a strange day in

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history check this odd 1964 Sam Cooke

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dies under suspicious circumstances

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right here in Los Angeles he shot three

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times at the Hacienda Hotel 1978 the big

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heist the all that money that was jacked

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from the JFK Airport in that infamous

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Lufthansa heist remember that 1978 1981

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Muhammad Ali loses to Trevor Berbick in

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his last fight he retires for the second

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time

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1994 Boris Yeltsin orders Russian forces

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into Chechnya and in 2008 billionaire

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conman Bernie Madoff is arrested

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all that all that on one day December

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11th man what happened today

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what happened today Kerry Cassidy was

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unfazed by December 11 2000 18th fader

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fact mad as a hatter mad as a hatter and

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mad hatter came from men who worked in

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the hat industry that were suffering

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from mercury poisoning because mercury

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was used in hat making and that is your

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fader factory I know you feel a little

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bit smarter now Rita just bought these

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in to me not check these out want you to

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look at this look new night vision is

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that incredible look how tiny it is

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right fits right in the palm of your

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hand and you can get this right now from

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baring optics these are on sale that is

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only $600 right there it records you

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just hold it up BAM

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top record record it's digital it's got

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a zoom it's USB it's got a rechargeable

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battery in it is that the coolest thing

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you have ever seen look at that okay

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are you picking up what I'm putting down

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tripod mount full settings right there

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everything that you need to do record

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button right on the top right on the top

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so you're holding it boom done BAM

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record download right there that's the

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Orion from Hoffman's optics that is the

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coolest thing ever right there now I'm

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showing it to you that is the Christmas

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gift right there that is it look at that

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it's that crazy it's beautiful that is

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called the Orion so go to Hoffman's

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optics.com and you can check it out and

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you've seen when you look at it in the

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picture

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right that's one thing but look at this

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look at that okay

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are you picking up when I'm putting down

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you better be that's the Orion $600 on

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sale $200 off right now

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that is just incredible incredible

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night-vision nvgs

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so everybody's been contacting me about

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them well you know what for your

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Christmas right there that's what you

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want to do that's what you want to do

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alright let's go

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now tonight Kerry Cassidy is here and

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it's influencer week and last night

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Billy Carson tomorrow night is Tyler

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Klockner now this is the deal

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it's our influence a week and as I you

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know I'm pretty pretty happy pretty

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amazed you know getting these three

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guests on the show for the week but it

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got me thinking and I've talked about

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this before but I've got to go back and

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revisit this who influenced me who

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influenced me hmm right well it's

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actually very simple and it may be not

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what you may think but check this out I

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want everybody to write these three

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names down you can go and get the

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archives all of their shows that they

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have done some of it goes you know back

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6070 years but everything most of it is

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available online you may have to do a

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little bit of searching but I assure you

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it's it's well worth it you need to go

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check it out and I'm going to give you

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some reasons why right now let me hit

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Long John Nebel write that down Long

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John Nebel n EBE L Long John Nebel Long

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John Nebel had the party line in New

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York City and the party line was way

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ahead of its time and at long johns peak

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he was doing probably 35 40 to 50

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million people per night okay

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Long John Noble he had a table set up at

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wor out of New York City in Manhattan

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downtown had a table with telephones had

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microphones and he would bring in every

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single night three four five six guests

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and they would sit around the table and

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talk and take phone calls they had

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switchboards that you know the head

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operator answering phone calls and way

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ahead of the curve long John Neville

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covered everything all of the subjects

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he did he did goes he did telepathy of

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course he did UFOs and did conspiracies

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and did the the the craziest shows ever

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and and he was genuinely interested in

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the subject and if you study UFO history

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all of those names that we know today

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don't they they were on his show in 1955

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56 57 58 he had arthur c clarke on his

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show all right

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go and check out all of the vintage

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broadcasts from Long John Neville and

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another one that really influenced me

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was Billy Goodman who had his UFO show

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called coast to coast it's right right

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before our belt

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in Las Vegas ran for a couple of years

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billy Goodman was a rock and roll deejay

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here in Los Angeles moves to Las Vegas

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and starts coast-to-coast

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and Billy his stuff if you go and just

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check Billy out for his bill Cooper

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stuff that's that's radio gold radio

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gold so you need to go check that out

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and I would get these cassette tapes of

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Billy Goodman I had a friend of mine

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that had another connection in Las Vegas

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and it was like especially back then it

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was trading these tapes or I ain't okay

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man I'll give you this one if you get

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let me borrow your your Wendell Stevens

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videotape all right so we trade and then

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and he would get his back I get my

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Wendell Stevens videotape back whatever

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the Billy Goodman influenced okay and

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now and there's one more so write that

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down Billy Goodman out of Las Vegas

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coast to coast

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we'll go and listen to his shows there

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out there on the net and the other one

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an absolute radio gold and for me

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changed everything was bill Jenkins

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bill Jenkins that's je and ki NS bill

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Jenkins had open mind radio and it aired

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on Saturdays here in Los Angeles on KABC

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radio and he did the same thing he had

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he had phone calls and when you go and

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listen to you can get all of his stuff

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were you going listen to his shows and

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back then they didn't even do area codes

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what's the trippy thing man back in the

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mid-80s when when they started like 8 1

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8 or whatever but there was a no need

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for area codes back but anyway bill

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Jenkins out of KABC and now there's a

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few things that you need to note here

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I want you to go and listen to all of

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these broadcasts because with Nebel he

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covered every major UFO incident he had

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all of the players on he had all of the

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authors the researchers the contactees

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all of them right but he never mentioned

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Roswell Nebel broadcast on wor from the

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mid-1950s all the way to 1978 and I'm

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telling you every researcher nobody

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mentioned Roswell and you would think

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that Kenneth Arnold would have mentioned

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Roswell or remembered it mentioned it

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once he was a frequent guest of Long

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John you can go listen to many many

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shows with them I've listened to every

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broadcast Kenneth Arnold never mentioned

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Roswell it's very strange and then when

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you go and listen to some of this

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earlier radio stuff that mentioned

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Roswell there's bill more on bill

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Jenkins open mind program in the mid 80s

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and even then here you know Bill Moore

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was more interested during those

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broadcasts with the face on Mars then

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Roswell Amy was talking about his new

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documents that he's revealing and

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everything go and check it out bill

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Jenkins open mind

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I'm KABC radio remember Bill Moore

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published the Roswell incident in 1980

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with Charles Berlitz well that's right

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1980 five years later six years later

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when he was on bill Jenkins show yeah

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didn't really mention Roswell it's very

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interesting now and this is this is a

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little project for you guys just go and

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check us out the Billy Goodman stuff he

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had I believe he had Lazar on that show

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predating everything right that's right

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but it's his stuff with Bill Cooper and

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Billy when you go and listen to the

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programs it seemed like he had bill

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Cooper on every show at least for a

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period there

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bill Cooper was changing things and and

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bill was very interested in the UFO

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subject they were all going out to area

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51 they were camping out overnight bill

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Cooper had a couple of caravans that he

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ran out there to groom Lake and all of

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that is on Billy Goodman's show so you

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should go and check these programs out

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because this is what got me really

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interested in what I'm doing today

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of course there is our bail we all love

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our bail and we know what our bail did

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and how he influenced there's no

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question about that

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but there were people before art that

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we're doing it and doing it well doing

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it right and those three names right

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there

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Billy Goodman bill Jenkins and long-john

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Nebel incredible programs great fun to

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listen to at night and and the stuff

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that is available right now online all

530
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of the archives are all very clean and

531
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easy to listen to and just think about

532
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:34,760
how easy it is for us to do that today

533
00:28:39,850 --> 00:28:37,160
to go into this research and and check

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out history so go and do it there you go

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long John Neville Billy Goodman and Bill

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Jenkins

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy church tonight Kerry Cassidy

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Project Camelot tomorrow night Tyler

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Glockner from a secured team Thursday is

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another Fator night with teresa generis

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all right welcome back fade to black I

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am your host and Jimmy Church its

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influence a week last night Billy Carson

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tonight it is Kerry Cassidy tomorrow

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night

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Tyler Glockner of secured team is with

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us Thursday night's going to be failure

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night we have Teresa Ian Ayre is here

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divine frequency on the airwaves

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followed by open lines all night long

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tonight it is Carrie she is the CEO and

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founder of Project Camelot Carrie is a

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documentary filmmaker investigative

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journalists as well known hosts of

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Project Camelot TV broadcasting weekly

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live shows on YouTube Carrie is a leader

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in the alternative media sector with the

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YouTube channel that has over 60 million

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unique viewers worldwide and over two

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hundred and eighteen thousand

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subscribers she travels the world

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conducting interviews and documenting

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above top-secret clearances as well as

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authors researchers and experiencers

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covering conspiracies the secret space

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program black projects ETS Kundalini and

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ascension and of course free energy

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she speaks at conferences around the

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world and is considered one of the

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leaders of the disclosure movement and

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the website of course is Project Camelot

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portal dot-com and the links are very

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simple to get to over a 2 meter radio

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calm would like to welcome back to fade

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to black Kerry Cassidy Kerry it's been

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too long what have you been up to

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hey Jimmy how are you doing I am

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fantastic Kerry hey a couple of things

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welcome back to the program and it was

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great seeing you last week and and that

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was just fantastic but I want to go here

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first which is this who influenced you

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oh actually first and foremost is the

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I started out as a poet and I love Jim

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Morrison's poetry and the the doors and

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that's what really kind of made me wanna

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I guess

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hit the big time and be a so called

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star whatever right right no matter how

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it came right and because you're just

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creative you were gonna do creative

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things regardless right yeah and because

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I saw the world through a sort of poetic

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eyes you might say and I I was a

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voracious reader as a kid and I loved

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mysteries so anything that was

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mysterious and hard to figure out that's

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what I loved and you know I was also

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aware of other worlds the unseen worlds

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and so was Jim Morrison he heart back to

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Rambo and other Romantic poets etc so

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yeah it you know it was really the sort

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of 60s vibe that was exploring pushing

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the envelope and and that was a huge

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influence on me and my mind keeping me

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with an open mind

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was there a broadcaster or author or

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researcher that we were reading or

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interested in a broadcaster you know

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it's really funny not until art bell

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probably right you know I I was very

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into music growing growing up I wanted

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to be a rock star right right and and

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then I wanted to make movies so I kind

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of went from one to the other

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when I saw Close Encounters of the Third

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Kind I basically thought okay this is it

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it was like you know a revelation i I

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like stood up in the theater and I just

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00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:53,910
thought okay finally it's out it's all

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it's gonna be everywhere everyone knows

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now little did I know that that was kind

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of the tip of the iceberg but at any

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rate yeah you know I was um I was a

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rebel when I was a kid so I loved James

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Dean but as far as radio people art Bell

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was the deal and I I never dreamed I

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would be doing what art bill is did and

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has done you know I I just it didn't

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enter my mind for the longest time

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although when I was a kid

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my dad used to do this thing where he

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would let us talk on this old-fashioned

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recording machine mm-hmm and I always

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you know really loved that I was just

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you know I I don't know what it is maybe

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you do because you're you know like me

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you you want to talk over the sound

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waves and reach people and and so that

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00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:51,270
seemed very important but I also studied

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acting you know in my 20s in New York

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00:39:00,170 --> 00:38:57,300
City and was all about that then I

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studied directing I moved to LA I wanted

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to make movies so you know my background

730
00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:05,940
is not conventional for this sector

731
00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:09,540
really even though I studied the occult

732
00:39:16,070 --> 00:39:12,540
I was very into that I also was into

733
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:16,080
Kundalini activation so I was into you

734
00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:20,490
know things like Gandhi and Hermann

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Hesse and connecting all my chakras and

736
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:26,910
going into deep meditations and wanting

737
00:39:33,050 --> 00:39:29,640
to reach enlightenment and that there

738
00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:33,060
was a big community in New York that was

739
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:38,280
all about all of that right well you

740
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:40,380
know my time in New York was was a

741
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:43,650
strange time and I was involved in in

742
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:47,250
some outside recording studio stuff I

743
00:39:56,540 --> 00:39:52,140
was going up and back to upstate New

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00:39:59,860 --> 00:39:56,550
York and I was what can I say I was I

745
00:40:02,990 --> 00:39:59,870
was involved again with music and so

746
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:03,000
music and acting I wasn't I wasn't

747
00:40:07,610 --> 00:40:05,160
involved with the community when it came

748
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:07,620
to the occult I was having visitations

749
00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:11,160
at night from from beings and I knew I

750
00:40:16,820 --> 00:40:13,380
was being you know I had a long history

751
00:40:18,860 --> 00:40:16,830
of abduction I had not clear memories

752
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:18,870
they were just fleeting memories but I

753
00:40:24,110 --> 00:40:22,440
also went into I had this these things

754
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:24,120
where at night I would go to sleep in

755
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:26,970
New York and I would go into the walk

756
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:29,910
towards a hill in Montauk and disappear

757
00:40:36,110 --> 00:40:33,330
inside the hill and I don't know after

758
00:40:37,370 --> 00:40:36,120
that what happened and then the other

759
00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:37,380
thing was I was going to school

760
00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:39,460
underground in New York City

761
00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:42,430
at night when I went to sleep so I mean

762
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:45,940
very very unusual sort of stuff but I I

763
00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:48,550
knew about Montauk kind of early on way

764
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:52,329
before Camelot and I figured that I was

765
00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:54,400
being utilized as part of that

766
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,790
experiment somehow and I actually was

767
00:41:04,440 --> 00:40:59,680
living in New York and left New York

768
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:04,450
right after Montauk blew up in the end

769
00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:07,510
and the thing went crazy in 1983 mm-hmm

770
00:41:15,329 --> 00:41:11,079
I left New York you know when when you

771
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:15,339
speak about these experiences were they

772
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:18,190
something that when you woke up or

773
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:20,770
started to remember them were you

774
00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:24,640
remembering them as real events or was

775
00:41:29,069 --> 00:41:26,260
it just an out-of-body thing

776
00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:29,079
how were you accepting it in your own

777
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:31,180
mind

778
00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:33,849
well some people will actually know the

779
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:36,700
words to my Jaguar song if you've ever

780
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:38,079
listened to the whole thing which is the

781
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,130
Camelot theme and it's basically saying

782
00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:44,079
there's a Jaguar outside my door

783
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:45,700
stretched out and purring waiting for

784
00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:48,130
more strange shade of stone deep cat eye

785
00:41:55,770 --> 00:41:51,400
green no one no way to escape no one

786
00:41:57,870 --> 00:41:55,780
hears my scream the Jaguar ends in South

787
00:42:00,900 --> 00:41:57,880
America symbolizes going into other

788
00:42:02,849 --> 00:42:00,910
dimensions so that's a poem I wrote and

789
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:02,859
then I turned it into a song and then

790
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:04,510
later Bill said hey why don't we make

791
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:06,760
this our theme song for Camelot in the

792
00:42:11,549 --> 00:42:09,420
early days so that's kind of the

793
00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:11,559
trajectory of the word of the song

794
00:42:20,130 --> 00:42:16,920
Jaguar and so in my world I was always

795
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:20,140
straddling two worlds because I I could

796
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:22,569
see I developed what you call a

797
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:24,940
theoretic sight mm-hmm because I

798
00:42:30,839 --> 00:42:27,609
meditated a lot and I I taught myself

799
00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:30,849
and I I you know I was uh I guess you

800
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:33,220
might say a real investigator I I really

801
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:35,470
wanted to know everything that they

802
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:36,430
wouldn't tell us

803
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:40,450
so I questioned everything and I used to

804
00:42:45,299 --> 00:42:42,130
get in trouble when I was a kid for

805
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:45,309
questioning adults talking back to

806
00:42:50,819 --> 00:42:49,119
teachers all that so you know all I can

807
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,829
say is no I wasn't part of a community

808
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:52,880
actually I was something a

809
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:54,950
rebel and and doing all of that on my

810
00:43:00,730 --> 00:42:58,190
own when the montauk stuff like you said

811
00:43:04,059 --> 00:43:00,740
it did it did literally blow up in in

812
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:04,069
1983 when that started to take off and

813
00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:06,529
you had your own personal experiences

814
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:08,420
with it what kind of aha moment did you

815
00:43:18,099 --> 00:43:11,450
have I mean is it like you know man this

816
00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:18,109
is real right I you know again there was

817
00:43:24,490 --> 00:43:21,220
no aha moment because I'd see I'd been

818
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:24,500
experiencing this stuff since a kid and

819
00:43:30,609 --> 00:43:27,230
I just knew that other people didn't get

820
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:30,619
it and so I kept it a lot of it to

821
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:33,920
myself gradually as I say when close

822
00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:35,450
encounters came out and they started

823
00:43:38,859 --> 00:43:37,160
talking about the whole et side of

824
00:43:41,049 --> 00:43:38,869
things I thought okay great

825
00:43:44,499 --> 00:43:41,059
now there's going to be more talk about

826
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,509
this and I mean I you know I kind of

827
00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:46,160
hate to remember this stuff but you know

828
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:47,900
I was going back and forth to Woodstock

829
00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:50,210
and I remember I had some girlfriends

830
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:53,180
who actually referred to me as a kind of

831
00:43:58,900 --> 00:43:56,450
et I don't I don't even know why but I

832
00:44:02,289 --> 00:43:58,910
always had a lot of knowledge about

833
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,299
stuff and because I read a lot and most

834
00:44:06,940 --> 00:44:04,400
people don't grow up reading a lot I

835
00:44:09,220 --> 00:44:06,950
guess mm-hm unless they're like you know

836
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:09,230
nerds and I wasn't like a nerd kind of

837
00:44:18,339 --> 00:44:13,490
person at all I I just I had a lot of

838
00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:18,349
knowledge so I I don't know you know I I

839
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:19,640
don't know if I'm answering your

840
00:44:26,099 --> 00:44:22,730
question well no I totally get it

841
00:44:28,839 --> 00:44:26,109
see there are I would assume because

842
00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:28,849
this is my own experience that when you

843
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:31,190
get a confirmation of something you know

844
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,710
because you may be asking yourself is it

845
00:44:36,999 --> 00:44:35,599
me am I going crazy or is this really

846
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:37,009
happening and then you get something to

847
00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:39,170
validate your experience and that's when

848
00:44:42,849 --> 00:44:40,660
you back up and go okay wait a minute

849
00:44:45,999 --> 00:44:42,859
okay I got to take this a little more

850
00:44:50,650 --> 00:44:46,009
serious so okay I'll tell you one thing

851
00:44:53,319 --> 00:44:50,660
that happened during those years I I had

852
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:53,329
a whole night in which I was helping a

853
00:44:59,319 --> 00:44:57,200
very old man with a very funny mustache

854
00:45:02,019 --> 00:44:59,329
and his wife and I was mainly working

855
00:45:05,319 --> 00:45:02,029
with him and he was transitioning he was

856
00:45:06,279 --> 00:45:05,329
dying and when I woke up in that morning

857
00:45:08,890 --> 00:45:06,289
I thought well that

858
00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:08,900
a very strange sort of dream experience

859
00:45:14,009 --> 00:45:11,630
whatever because I I didn't categorize

860
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:14,019
things in my life I had like I said I

861
00:45:18,370 --> 00:45:16,729
ridiculously open mind if I dreamed it

862
00:45:21,279 --> 00:45:18,380
as far as I was concerned it could

863
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:21,289
easily have happened either past present

864
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:24,650
or future so then I went to work and I

865
00:45:30,539 --> 00:45:27,410
saw a newspaper and it said that

866
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:30,549
Salvador Dali had died that night oh wow

867
00:45:36,130 --> 00:45:33,410
and I knew that was the man you know I

868
00:45:38,709 --> 00:45:36,140
knew I even knew remembered where he had

869
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:38,719
was like before I saw the article that

870
00:45:43,299 --> 00:45:40,249
the man that I was counseling was

871
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:43,309
somewhere in around France or Spain area

872
00:45:48,849 --> 00:45:46,729
and you know I just knew it was him so

873
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:48,859
that's when I got clued into the fact

874
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:50,689
that I was helping you know this is

875
00:45:57,489 --> 00:45:54,169
something that sort of you might say

876
00:45:59,229 --> 00:45:57,499
adepts do it's just it's kind of a

877
00:46:02,439 --> 00:45:59,239
normal kind of thing is to help people

878
00:46:05,499 --> 00:46:02,449
transition from death out of this world

879
00:46:09,969 --> 00:46:05,509
and and kind of get their legs in terms

880
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:09,979
of moving on to other dimensions so so

881
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:12,079
when when that happened I thought great

882
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:14,089
that's you know a really strong

883
00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:18,319
affirmation right but you know there

884
00:46:23,049 --> 00:46:20,630
were lots of small affirmations my whole

885
00:46:26,140 --> 00:46:23,059
life I was very intuitive and very

886
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:26,150
psychic too so I kind of knew what was

887
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:28,130
going to happen like I would know if I

888
00:46:32,979 --> 00:46:29,689
was going to get fired from a job I

889
00:46:35,739 --> 00:46:32,989
would have a dream the night before and

890
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:35,749
then when I was in LA I I knew like one

891
00:46:41,319 --> 00:46:38,689
night I had a dream or type a dream type

892
00:46:44,769 --> 00:46:41,329
of thing where my car was towed and I

893
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:44,779
thought oh god I hope I so hope this is

894
00:46:48,459 --> 00:46:46,130
not going to be one of my dreams that

895
00:46:50,529 --> 00:46:48,469
comes true welcome in the morning went

896
00:46:54,209 --> 00:46:50,539
out to get my car and sure enough it was

897
00:46:58,419 --> 00:46:54,219
gone you know this kind of stuff so I

898
00:47:01,599 --> 00:46:58,429
you know I had a lot of I had a lot of I

899
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:01,609
did look at my life in a certain way I

900
00:47:06,489 --> 00:47:04,130
studied science you know I they gave you

901
00:47:08,919 --> 00:47:06,499
these tests in high school and I would

902
00:47:13,029 --> 00:47:08,929
score really high in both science and

903
00:47:15,309 --> 00:47:13,039
art that's a little bit unusual and so I

904
00:47:19,610 --> 00:47:15,319
would apply like the scientific method

905
00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:19,620
to my sort of wild imagination

906
00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:23,220
what you will dreams visions etc and I

907
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:25,500
would try to see if they would be true

908
00:47:30,860 --> 00:47:28,440
and if so how and if they were off I

909
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:30,870
would try to see where were they off did

910
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:33,510
I misinterpret it did it not happen and

911
00:47:38,810 --> 00:47:35,010
I've also had a lot I've been I was a

912
00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:38,820
Precog so I would as I say see things

913
00:47:43,580 --> 00:47:40,470
before they happen and then they would

914
00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:43,590
roll out and that's gone on now for

915
00:47:50,030 --> 00:47:47,070
since my early 20s at least where I do I

916
00:47:52,580 --> 00:47:50,040
have seen the future and even to this

917
00:47:55,630 --> 00:47:52,590
day I do see it roll out but you know I

918
00:47:58,940 --> 00:47:55,640
don't talk about it and I also don't

919
00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:58,950
depend on it you know I figure we have

920
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:01,380
many timelines it's it's also worth

921
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:04,170
knowing that I read the Seth material by

922
00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:07,530
Jane Roberts when I was like 12 or

923
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,300
something Wow and I mean and and it made

924
00:48:16,340 --> 00:48:14,160
sense to me you know I didn't really

925
00:48:19,090 --> 00:48:16,350
like it all that well because I mean I

926
00:48:21,460 --> 00:48:19,100
thought she was fabulous but I thought

927
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:21,470
the idea that we have so many

928
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:23,610
alternative timelines was kind of

929
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:29,970
disappointing why it it's just because

930
00:48:34,070 --> 00:48:31,710
when I was a kid you know I wanted to

931
00:48:38,060 --> 00:48:34,080
think that this was it this was the most

932
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:38,070
important timeline going and that it

933
00:48:44,930 --> 00:48:40,920
mattered you know I was very passionate

934
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,940
so now I'm more okay with it than I used

935
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:47,520
to be but you know what could I say Seth

936
00:48:51,110 --> 00:48:49,770
you know this Seth gives a really good

937
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,120
case I don't know if you ever read the

938
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:53,520
settlement absolutely absolutely all

939
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:55,140
right then you know he makes a very good

940
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:56,670
case for the fact that we have

941
00:49:02,210 --> 00:49:00,240
alternative timelines though and when

942
00:49:04,460 --> 00:49:02,220
you go I can't imagine well you know I

943
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:04,470
kind of read Casey when I was like 8

944
00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:08,550
right so I can make yeah I can

945
00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:10,200
understand the heaviness of that but you

946
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:12,660
know it's somebody that is young and

947
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:14,460
impressionable and what it did for me

948
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:16,410
and I'm gonna ask you this question what

949
00:49:21,830 --> 00:49:19,260
it did for me was just absolutely told

950
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:21,840
me that nothing is is what it seems and

951
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:23,730
it's certainly not what we are taught

952
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:26,490
and told and that's what I got out of

953
00:49:32,589 --> 00:49:29,130
that and and when you go and and read

954
00:49:35,710 --> 00:49:32,599
you know Jane Roberts in the South books

955
00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:35,720
Seth speaks what did that do for you do

956
00:49:42,460 --> 00:49:37,790
you start looking squinty eyed and

957
00:49:45,010 --> 00:49:42,470
everything well it validated a lot of

958
00:49:47,859 --> 00:49:45,020
things that I had hunches on since I was

959
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:47,869
a little kid and so that was a good

960
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:49,880
thing when I was reading you know and I

961
00:49:53,890 --> 00:49:51,530
read other literature though I don't

962
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:53,900
remember it as well strangely I couldn't

963
00:49:58,270 --> 00:49:56,330
like quote you the books

964
00:50:00,820 --> 00:49:58,280
whereas I could that one I'm not sure

965
00:50:03,820 --> 00:50:00,830
why I do think that it was quite unique

966
00:50:06,940 --> 00:50:03,830
in that it really stressed that we had

967
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:06,950
so many dividing sort of timelines at

968
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:09,290
every decision point but there is a

969
00:50:14,380 --> 00:50:12,050
certain through line as well and then

970
00:50:15,820 --> 00:50:14,390
there there is a certain time line

971
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:15,830
whatever you want to call it that has

972
00:50:21,460 --> 00:50:19,040
more emphasis in our reality but that I

973
00:50:24,670 --> 00:50:21,470
started to realize that it had to do

974
00:50:28,089 --> 00:50:24,680
with your focus and it might have

975
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:28,099
influenced the fact that you know I'm

976
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:31,609
not I'm not a person who believes in

977
00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:33,410
putting somebody in jail and throwing

978
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:35,180
away the key for example I'm not a

979
00:50:41,980 --> 00:50:38,720
person who believes in punishment

980
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:41,990
I do remember one year when I was quite

981
00:50:49,810 --> 00:50:45,530
young and I found out about Nazi Germany

982
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:49,820
and Hitler and I did not celebrate

983
00:50:54,670 --> 00:50:52,310
Christmas that year my family didn't

984
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:54,680
know I didn't celebrate Christmas that

985
00:50:59,079 --> 00:50:57,650
year but I vowed to myself that you know

986
00:51:02,589 --> 00:50:59,089
there was something very wrong with the

987
00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:02,599
world and I was devastated when I found

988
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:06,440
out about that and so I I just I

989
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:08,570
couldn't you know I couldn't believe

990
00:51:15,250 --> 00:51:12,650
man's inhumanity to man and I you know

991
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:15,260
that I guess that really affected me I

992
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:18,530
also should say that my father died we

993
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:19,970
went to play tennis he died when I was

994
00:51:29,530 --> 00:51:26,690
like 16 I think 16 going into 17 and so

995
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:29,540
I had sort of a rude awakening I had to

996
00:51:36,550 --> 00:51:33,050
grow up after that really fast so things

997
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:36,560
kind of encapsulated after that did and

998
00:51:45,050 --> 00:51:39,890
I was gonna ask you this did your father

999
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,060
ever visit you after he after he passed

1000
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,520
you know it's a strange thing he might

1001
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:50,160
have but I don't remember my mother past

1002
00:51:56,540 --> 00:51:54,090
when I was much older and she has

1003
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:56,550
visited me I've seen her she's on

1004
00:52:02,780 --> 00:51:59,010
another timeline and so and so forth but

1005
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:02,790
he for some reason is very ephemeral and

1006
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:04,980
but I will say one thing when I was a

1007
00:52:11,660 --> 00:52:09,030
kid my grandfather used to live in in

1008
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:11,670
almost a fairyland in his mind and he

1009
00:52:17,060 --> 00:52:13,890
would talk to us about nothing but

1010
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:17,070
fairies and elves and other worlds so

1011
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:19,740
having a grandfather like that he and I

1012
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,040
were like imperfect you know unison I

1013
00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:26,160
mean you know we would joke and we would

1014
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,940
talk and we it was just delightful it

1015
00:52:34,820 --> 00:52:31,920
didn't matter if it was true it was fun

1016
00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:34,830
you know it made life fun so he was

1017
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:37,260
quite unique in that way didn't know

1018
00:52:45,490 --> 00:52:40,890
when we come back after the break we're

1019
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:45,500
gonna set up some of your history of

1020
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:49,260
interviewing and to help us do that I

1021
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:51,300
want you to think for a second do you

1022
00:52:59,690 --> 00:52:59,040
remember your first interview are you

1023
00:53:05,000 --> 00:52:59,700
want me to ask

1024
00:53:05,830 --> 00:53:05,010
I love the dramatic pause well done

1025
00:53:08,930 --> 00:53:05,840
there Carey

1026
00:53:13,130 --> 00:53:08,940
everybody everybody leaned forward for

1027
00:53:14,450 --> 00:53:13,140
the answer yeah who was your first

1028
00:53:21,860 --> 00:53:14,460
interview do you remember in the

1029
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:21,870
conspiracy UFO genre I think it was

1030
00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:27,390
Robert Salas really yeah and he lives in

1031
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:29,940
uh well I I can't I shouldn't say where

1032
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:31,770
he lives I mean he lived not that far

1033
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:36,420
from me and I I think I met him at one

1034
00:53:42,380 --> 00:53:37,950
of the first conferences I ever attended

1035
00:53:44,330 --> 00:53:42,390
and I was I just I was impressed with

1036
00:53:46,970 --> 00:53:44,340
him also because of his Native American

1037
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:46,980
background I have probably a little

1038
00:53:52,190 --> 00:53:49,110
Native American blood somewhere in there

1039
00:53:53,810 --> 00:53:52,200
because my father seemed to you know he

1040
00:53:55,550 --> 00:53:53,820
he taught brought us through the

1041
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:55,560
southwest when we were little kids and

1042
00:54:01,650 --> 00:53:57,970
he made give us lectures about how

1043
00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:01,660
the Native Americans culture were and we

1044
00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:03,369
learned all about the Hopi in the Navajo

1045
00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:07,750
and you know I really related to the

1046
00:54:15,420 --> 00:54:10,680
Native Americans on some intuitive level

1047
00:54:17,790 --> 00:54:15,430
and you know my other sister he looks

1048
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:17,800
even more Native American than I do and

1049
00:54:24,089 --> 00:54:20,950
she sometimes even acts it she's kind of

1050
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:24,099
a different kind of a person and so on

1051
00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:27,760
so my dad had looked like slightly Navy

1052
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:30,460
lighten slightly Native American he was

1053
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:35,230
also Spanish I think he was what they

1054
00:54:40,109 --> 00:54:37,900
call Castilian or he could have even

1055
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:40,119
been from the Basque region I actually

1056
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,490
now think that he was adopted I mean

1057
00:54:47,130 --> 00:54:45,040
it's a whole long story I know nobody

1058
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:47,140
was bargaining to get on my life story

1059
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:49,180
here but you just sort of asked me these

1060
00:54:54,810 --> 00:54:52,450
kinds of questions so anyway all to say

1061
00:55:01,260 --> 00:54:54,820
that Native Americans sort of had an

1062
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:01,270
influence and I guess that that that had

1063
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:03,849
to do with why Roberts solace resonated

1064
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:06,430
with me and intuitively I felt he was

1065
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:08,740
telling the truth so I went to his house

1066
00:55:14,300 --> 00:55:10,510
and I had no idea what the hell I was

1067
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:14,310
doing which was my next question do you

1068
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:16,390
we've got we've got about one minute

1069
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:20,130
before the break have you gone back and

1070
00:55:26,670 --> 00:55:23,910
listened or watched this interview I

1071
00:55:28,740 --> 00:55:26,680
think it's on Camelot I think I went

1072
00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:28,750
back and edited it and then finally put

1073
00:55:32,849 --> 00:55:31,000
it on Camelot because I think maybe I

1074
00:55:35,070 --> 00:55:32,859
kind of forgot about it for a while and

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then finally did I have to I'd have to

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00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:36,339
go look for it right now you know I have

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00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:40,240
over 700 interviews on there well but is

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00:55:46,109 --> 00:55:43,690
it is it painful in that you have you

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00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:46,119
have grown and developed as an

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interviewer you know over the years and

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you go back and watch or listen to the

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your first stuff and and how you have

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00:55:59,070 --> 00:55:57,310
grown and and and so forth is that part

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00:56:02,820 --> 00:55:59,080
of the painful because it is for me oh

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00:56:04,589 --> 00:56:02,830
no you know but you were doing a public

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00:56:06,510 --> 00:56:04,599
thing it's different I just went into

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his house with a camera I was there with

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00:56:11,789 --> 00:56:09,039
him and his wife right and

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00:56:15,299 --> 00:56:11,799
and I just hope that they didn't think I

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was you know completely inept my camera

1091
00:56:20,819 --> 00:56:18,069
was was really really laughable little

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00:56:22,979 --> 00:56:20,829
camcorder thing and I'm not a technical

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00:56:27,419 --> 00:56:22,989
person so I'm lucky if I even turned it

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00:56:30,029 --> 00:56:27,429
on but at any rate I I will say that I

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00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:30,039
studied journalism formal journalism in

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college so I did do stories on people

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you know as a journalist front-page

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00:56:44,609 --> 00:56:42,699
stories for the college paper so I

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00:56:46,769 --> 00:56:44,619
wasn't you know naive in the

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journalistic sense and the other thing

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is that before Camelot I worked for 20

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years in Hollywood and before that I was

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00:56:56,939 --> 00:56:53,949
trained as an actress and I was in a few

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commercials you know I'm not a complete

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00:57:02,459 --> 00:56:59,699
idiot so I can carry on a conversation

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00:57:05,579 --> 00:57:02,469
you know it wasn't rocket science to be

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00:57:07,819 --> 00:57:05,589
honest he did most of the work I can say

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00:57:11,459 --> 00:57:07,829
that I noticed right away that my

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00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:11,469
intuition my intuitive sense of people

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00:57:17,189 --> 00:57:14,169
was kicking in right then and there and

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I think I I don't I'd have to go back

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00:57:20,759 --> 00:57:18,909
and listen but I might have gotten a few

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00:57:24,299 --> 00:57:20,769
things out of him that he didn't

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00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:24,309
necessarily prepare himself to say which

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00:57:31,049 --> 00:57:27,849
is something I do all the time now but

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00:57:32,579 --> 00:57:31,059
these were just early signs of stuff you

1117
00:57:34,859 --> 00:57:32,589
know I don't think it's that bad I think

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00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:34,869
he you know it's his story and that's

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00:57:40,109 --> 00:57:37,150
what's actually true of interviews in

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00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,119
general I mean I do the best I can to

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00:57:44,909 --> 00:57:42,640
draw the person out but it's it's there

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00:57:46,829 --> 00:57:44,919
they're the ones on stage really they're

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00:57:49,259 --> 00:57:46,839
the ones you know on the hot seat if you

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00:57:51,419 --> 00:57:49,269
want to call it that and they carry the

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00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:51,429
ball so he did all the work

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00:57:56,849 --> 00:57:54,130
really let's take a break right here our

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00:57:58,979 --> 00:57:56,859
guest tonight is Kerry Cassidy a Project

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Camelot night two of our influencer week

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here on fade to black

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I'm your host Jimmy Church we're gonna

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pick up where we are leaving off right

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now the Spade to black on the OCME

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Church follow me on twitter @ JT radio

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you can follow Kerry at it's a Project

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Camelot on Twitter

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I'll be right back stay with us

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all right welcome back fade to black I

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am their host Timmy Church influencer

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week here last night Billy Carson

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tonight Kerry Cassidy of paja Camelot

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tomorrow night Tyler Glockner of secure

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teen and of course Thursday night's

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Fator night open lines all night long

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tonight it is Kerry Cassidy not carry

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you okay let's let's talk about a little

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01:04:29,609 --> 01:04:25,630
bit of history here you were one of the

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original youtubers you recognized very

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early on the power of the internet and

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and running an effective website and

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01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:38,920
everything that we all take for granted

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today but you guys certainly had the

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01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:45,069
vision on how to utilize social media

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which back then was was in its infancy

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01:04:53,490 --> 01:04:50,020
compared to now we've you know

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progressed so quickly how do you how did

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01:05:01,079 --> 01:04:55,329
you handle that back then and where did

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the ideas come from to to pursue well I

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mean I taught myself film editing and

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picked up a consumer-grade

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camcorder and decided I was fed up with

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Hollywood I couldn't get movies made I

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wanted to make sci-fi blockbusters I was

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shopping movies to people like the story

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person for her James Cameron for Ridley

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Scott and for Steven Spielberg to

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Kathleen Kennedy for example and I had

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some great projects I was already sort

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of going along the lines I didn't know

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it at the time of course but of you know

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I wanted to do basically with what

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Spielberg did for me with Close

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Encounters so I you know that that was

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my motivator and when I connected with

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Bill I went to you know I just started

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doing a few interviews and I started

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making what was in essence a UFO

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documentary and Bill was going to be one

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of my witnesses in that documentary

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I heard about the serpo project we were

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on a joint news group that this guy

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named Victor Martinez had started and he

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we didn't know at the time but we use I

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think helped to some degree behind the

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scenes by the intelligence agencies at

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any rate it had a lot of intelligence

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agents on it and hopefully that's not an

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oxymoron but in any rate had a lot of

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journalists on it on it and Bill was on

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it and you God had to be invited to join

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it I have no idea actually to this day

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exactly how I got on that list but I

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became aware that bill had volunteered

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to organize onto a website the serpo

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material and whereas I wasn't interested

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in Bill at all because he was simply a

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webmaster in my eyes I did see that the

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people were gravitating towards the sir

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Post story and so that year at the I

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think it was the Laughlin UFO conference

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that was happening in either February

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and March and this when this happened

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when I was looking into it was 2005 it

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was actually October November and so I

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sent bill Ryan an email saying would you

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like to do an interview and he said yes

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so I think I've told this story before

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so I walked up with my consumer-grade

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camcorder I had no crew whatsoever no

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01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:35,420
lights no nothing I said are you ready

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01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:37,310
for your interview and we kind of looked

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01:07:42,340 --> 01:07:39,650
at me dubiously because he had just done

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an interview with guys that had all the

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lights and cameras and bells and

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01:07:47,650 --> 01:07:45,560
whistles because he was speaking at the

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conference at that year as the

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spokesperson for the Serpa project so I

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you know I was kind of nonchalant and I

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figured it if he doesn't want to do

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01:08:00,820 --> 01:07:56,480
the interview I don't care cuz he's a

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webmaster and but he then he kind of

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01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:02,930
warmed to the idea then we I had

1335
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:04,760
interviewed right before him bill

1336
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,710
Hamilton and Bill Hamilton is a

1337
01:08:10,990 --> 01:08:09,200
fascinating guy if you've never heard my

1338
01:08:14,620 --> 01:08:11,000
interview with Bill Hamilton it's on

1339
01:08:16,329 --> 01:08:14,630
Camelot and I really recommend it and he

1340
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:16,339
was one of my first very early

1341
01:08:21,769 --> 01:08:19,130
interviews and we we really got into his

1342
01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:21,779
whole deal and it was quite fascinating

1343
01:08:26,510 --> 01:08:24,480
so I was quite happy after that

1344
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:26,520
interview and that was done like the

1345
01:08:31,190 --> 01:08:28,650
night before so that day I interviewed

1346
01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:31,200
Bill and what eventually happened you

1347
01:08:35,660 --> 01:08:32,910
know we connected we went to didn't

1348
01:08:38,230 --> 01:08:35,670
agile I had past life recall of the time

1349
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,240
of Arthur we were inspired by the

1350
01:08:43,579 --> 01:08:40,560
roundtable King Arthur round table and

1351
01:08:47,599 --> 01:08:43,589
the idea of a utopian society that was

1352
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:47,609
not hierarchical and so we both wanted

1353
01:08:53,450 --> 01:08:50,310
to get the truth out about the whole ET

1354
01:08:55,010 --> 01:08:53,460
UFO situation and we decided to dedicate

1355
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:55,020
ourselves right then and there and

1356
01:09:00,499 --> 01:08:58,080
create a project bill was internet

1357
01:09:01,610 --> 01:09:00,509
friendly in that he could build a

1358
01:09:06,349 --> 01:09:01,620
website right

1359
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:06,359
I had actually done that interview with

1360
01:09:13,070 --> 01:09:10,080
him and it was actually surprisingly

1361
01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:13,080
successful I created a website not

1362
01:09:18,260 --> 01:09:15,710
knowing what the hell I was doing out of

1363
01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:18,270
some you know how they used to have like

1364
01:09:21,890 --> 01:09:20,460
these oil I guess they still have them

1365
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:21,900
where you can kind of make a dummy

1366
01:09:26,570 --> 01:09:23,970
website you put in all your own stuff

1367
01:09:30,190 --> 01:09:26,580
but you don't really do any coding or

1368
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,200
anything like that so I made my own and

1369
01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:32,640
strangely enough I have no idea why I

1370
01:09:38,599 --> 01:09:34,470
did this but I do go with my intuition

1371
01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:38,609
on on things and I put what in essence

1372
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:41,220
speak is the Montauk horse I don't know

1373
01:09:44,599 --> 01:09:42,930
if you ever got into the whole symbolism

1374
01:09:47,420 --> 01:09:44,609
behind Montauk but there's a special

1375
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:47,430
horse that is symbolic of that project

1376
01:09:53,329 --> 01:09:51,359
yes and strangely I put that as my logo

1377
01:09:57,230 --> 01:09:53,339
in the front or whatever of the strange

1378
01:09:59,840 --> 01:09:57,240
website I created and then I I I also

1379
01:10:01,370 --> 01:09:59,850
had a startup and I called it wake I

1380
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:01,380
think I called it something like waking

1381
01:10:08,780 --> 01:10:04,710
the dreamer and it was based on a poem

1382
01:10:12,590 --> 01:10:08,790
that title and anyway Bill was my first

1383
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:12,600
interview on there and so I kind of you

1384
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,450
know I knew that already and I started

1385
01:10:19,250 --> 01:10:17,280
my youtube I also joined YouTube as a

1386
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,260
director and because I'd worked in

1387
01:10:24,770 --> 01:10:21,360
Hollywood and I had actually directed my

1388
01:10:27,170 --> 01:10:24,780
own short film you know that I shot on

1389
01:10:30,650 --> 01:10:27,180
location I stole all the locations

1390
01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:30,660
I wrote the screenplay you know I was

1391
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:32,760
already kind of teaching myself

1392
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:35,699
everything I could do and I also

1393
01:10:42,529 --> 01:10:38,489
I worked back in those days for a lawyer

1394
01:10:46,850 --> 01:10:42,539
in Warner Brothers entertainment section

1395
01:10:48,979 --> 01:10:46,860
that was part of the whole on line drive

1396
01:10:53,180 --> 01:10:48,989
that Warner Brothers was getting into at

1397
01:10:55,879 --> 01:10:53,190
the time in LA and so I there was lots

1398
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:55,889
of techies around me and so I just I've

1399
01:11:00,109 --> 01:10:57,360
always been able to kind of learn by

1400
01:11:02,779 --> 01:11:00,119
osmosis and somehow I just paid a lot of

1401
01:11:05,959 --> 01:11:02,789
attention and every time something new

1402
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:05,969
came along I tried to teach it to myself

1403
01:11:12,020 --> 01:11:08,880
I even tried to teach myself a bit of

1404
01:11:13,850 --> 01:11:12,030
HTML but I didn't really like it so I

1405
01:11:16,489 --> 01:11:13,860
didn't go very far with it but I did

1406
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:16,499
learn some rudimentary stuff anyway so

1407
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:19,320
those were the early days and then I

1408
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:21,570
taught myself film editing I picked up

1409
01:11:25,339 --> 01:11:23,610
the consumer-grade this you know when I

1410
01:11:28,489 --> 01:11:25,349
learned I had been a photographer

1411
01:11:30,890 --> 01:11:28,499
actually a still photographer prior to

1412
01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:30,900
college I studied photography then I

1413
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:33,630
studied at Santa Cruz with the protege

1414
01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:36,690
of Ansel Adams his name was Ted Orland

1415
01:11:42,109 --> 01:11:40,139
and he brought me aside he said there's

1416
01:11:44,569 --> 01:11:42,119
one time in a teacher's life when they

1417
01:11:46,609 --> 01:11:44,579
come across a very very talented person

1418
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:46,619
and they you know want to help them to

1419
01:11:51,469 --> 01:11:48,449
move along so he thought I was going to

1420
01:11:53,719 --> 01:11:51,479
get into still photography but I turned

1421
01:11:57,979 --> 01:11:53,729
to him and I said actually I want to

1422
01:12:00,469 --> 01:11:57,989
make movies which kind of blew it for

1423
01:12:02,959 --> 01:12:00,479
him but at any rate that's what I did

1424
01:12:05,629 --> 01:12:02,969
and then I know this is kind of

1425
01:12:07,549 --> 01:12:05,639
long-winded but you're asking so then

1426
01:12:09,620 --> 01:12:07,559
Brooke Shields if you remember the young

1427
01:12:12,770 --> 01:12:09,630
actress Brooke Shields she was very

1428
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:12,780
young then she was starring in a movie

1429
01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:15,840
called tilt and tilt came to Santa Cruz

1430
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:19,800
where I was waitressing as a in a coffee

1431
01:12:27,410 --> 01:12:22,800
bar sort of but up this place called the

1432
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:27,420
greenhouse and and and I was an extra in

1433
01:12:32,779 --> 01:12:30,239
the movie and of course with my movie

1434
01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:32,789
background of course then I met the

1435
01:12:36,140 --> 01:12:34,289
producer and the director and the

1436
01:12:38,089 --> 01:12:36,150
producer I had some talks with him and

1437
01:12:40,339 --> 01:12:38,099
he basically said to me he came to the

1438
01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:40,349
restaurant one day and he said listen if

1439
01:12:45,379 --> 01:12:43,289
you want to go make movies then you were

1440
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:45,389
in the wrong place and you need to pack

1441
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:47,130
your bags tomorrow you need to get the

1442
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:48,690
hell out of this potent time

1443
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:51,210
you know and go make it in the big time

1444
01:12:59,120 --> 01:12:55,170
you need to go to Los Angeles and so I

1445
01:13:01,670 --> 01:12:59,130
literally did that I went home I told my

1446
01:13:04,010 --> 01:13:01,680
boyfriend we were breaking up I said I'm

1447
01:13:06,260 --> 01:13:04,020
going and I'm packing my bags and I

1448
01:13:10,580 --> 01:13:06,270
think this man is right I am wasting my

1449
01:13:12,350 --> 01:13:10,590
time here and and I like I don't know a

1450
01:13:14,750 --> 01:13:12,360
week or two later I had found a place to

1451
01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:14,760
stay in LA and I moved and then he

1452
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:16,260
eventually followed me we got a house

1453
01:13:22,370 --> 01:13:18,690
together we did break up but you know

1454
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:22,380
that's history the early days with

1455
01:13:27,950 --> 01:13:25,410
YouTube and this is what I if you didn't

1456
01:13:30,380 --> 01:13:27,960
correct me I could be wrong here but

1457
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:30,390
everybody had it seemed like there was

1458
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:32,250
restrictions and a lot of it I'm talking

1459
01:13:37,220 --> 01:13:34,650
about time right the length of videos

1460
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:37,230
yeah yeah and there you know was

1461
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:38,730
bandwidth and there's lots of other

1462
01:13:44,930 --> 01:13:40,890
issues there and getting stuff to stream

1463
01:13:48,530 --> 01:13:44,940
right but you I remember this is what

1464
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:48,540
drew me to your stuff was that you were

1465
01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:50,310
like one of the first that I remember

1466
01:13:58,370 --> 01:13:56,100
that had like full-length videos is that

1467
01:14:01,520 --> 01:13:58,380
I'm not wrong am i how did you pull that

1468
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:01,530
off because I was a YouTube director I

1469
01:14:06,410 --> 01:14:03,360
was one of the early there were only a

1470
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:06,420
few of us I don't know the numbers but I

1471
01:14:09,470 --> 01:14:07,920
remember that when they put out the

1472
01:14:11,390 --> 01:14:09,480
notice they said if you'd like to be a

1473
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:11,400
YouTube director you're part of the

1474
01:14:17,150 --> 01:14:14,250
startup you know group the people that

1475
01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:17,160
are kind of I guess adopting this place

1476
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:20,699
you know early right and so I you know I

1477
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:22,290
had studied to be a director in

1478
01:14:26,990 --> 01:14:24,210
Hollywood III you know I studied acting

1479
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:27,000
I saw myself as a director you know

1480
01:14:34,010 --> 01:14:30,570
although my actual chops and and resume

1481
01:14:37,130 --> 01:14:34,020
wasn't really so together but so I wrote

1482
01:14:38,689 --> 01:14:37,140
to them I think and I I had also gone to

1483
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,699
film school so I had letters of

1484
01:14:44,660 --> 01:14:41,040
recommendation from places like the

1485
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:44,670
major talent agencies like CAA Creative

1486
01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,370
Artists Agency and you know various

1487
01:14:51,140 --> 01:14:49,199
places I'd done you know I'd been a

1488
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:51,150
reader in Hollywood I'd been an

1489
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:53,400
independent producer by that time I was

1490
01:14:59,630 --> 01:14:55,890
trying to pack to my own projects all of

1491
01:15:01,340 --> 01:14:59,640
this so I was qualified enough and they

1492
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:01,350
they brought me on as a director it was

1493
01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:02,650
what you call a director

1494
01:15:10,350 --> 01:15:05,230
after meant that you could have videos I

1495
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:10,360
think there was some kind of limit to

1496
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:12,310
two hours or more yeah it was like 10

1497
01:15:16,890 --> 01:15:14,050
minutes right everything on YouTube was

1498
01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:16,900
ten minutes was the maximum and so you

1499
01:15:20,970 --> 01:15:18,670
would have to string these videos along

1500
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,980
and watch them in a row you know what I

1501
01:15:26,220 --> 01:15:22,239
mean they would they would cut them up

1502
01:15:30,270 --> 01:15:26,230
but you had these interviews up there

1503
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:30,280
and I could watch them fully and you

1504
01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:32,290
were very early on in that that was a

1505
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:37,030
pretty good I was a pretty good what's

1506
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:39,730
the word I want to say you had a one-up

1507
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,050
on everybody else

1508
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:43,120
and so we could go to you and you had

1509
01:15:48,090 --> 01:15:46,510
all of the the researchers and the

1510
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:48,100
authors that we wanted to hear from but

1511
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:49,679
you had it in full-length

1512
01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:53,679
yeah well also keep in mind that I think

1513
01:15:59,939 --> 01:15:55,960
we did hit the zeitgeist at just the

1514
01:16:02,669 --> 01:15:59,949
right time you know we we were rebels

1515
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:02,679
and we wanted to in essence change the

1516
01:16:08,189 --> 01:16:05,290
world and we knew that Steven Greer had

1517
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:08,199
written a book but he had film footage

1518
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:10,090
that he wouldn't release cuz it wasn't

1519
01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:14,800
Hollywood you know quality and I just

1520
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:17,230
you know having I kind of came from the

1521
01:16:23,010 --> 01:16:20,890
MTV generation of you know guerrilla I

1522
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:23,020
call guerilla filmmaking I went to film

1523
01:16:28,290 --> 01:16:25,449
school I wanted to be an auteur you know

1524
01:16:30,689 --> 01:16:28,300
I believe that you know creative vision

1525
01:16:34,890 --> 01:16:30,699
was everything and all that stuff so

1526
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:34,900
basically you know that that's that was

1527
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:37,600
my kind of vision and then when I got

1528
01:16:44,850 --> 01:16:42,159
with Bill and we got together to do this

1529
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:44,860
project we we decided we would change

1530
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:46,960
the world we didn't know that people

1531
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:49,690
would like our stuff but we knew that we

1532
01:16:54,810 --> 01:16:51,610
wanted to interview people from above

1533
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:54,820
top secret and of course I had my

1534
01:17:00,840 --> 01:16:58,210
consumer-grade camcorder and mr. X is

1535
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:00,850
the first interview we did together and

1536
01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:03,850
that was shot down in Southern

1537
01:17:09,209 --> 01:17:06,070
California at what's called the Integra

1538
01:17:11,870 --> 01:17:09,219
Tong which is actually it's it's an

1539
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:11,880
amazing energy place now that I you know

1540
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:15,730
know more than I did back in the day and

1541
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:18,489
I can say it's almost fortuitous because

1542
01:17:25,410 --> 01:17:21,250
that's where big rock is that's where

1543
01:17:28,350 --> 01:17:25,420
Fred not Fred I'm Frank what's his name

1544
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:28,360
you know met with the tall what you know

1545
01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:31,600
tall blondes and George Van George Van

1546
01:17:38,130 --> 01:17:35,020
Tassel him as well but no there's lots

1547
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,140
of like UFO history in that area we

1548
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:40,480
literally stayed overnight the night

1549
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:43,570
before in a tent in Joshua Tree like in

1550
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:44,530
a campground

1551
01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:47,890
it was very spooky out there in the

1552
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,710
desert I mean it is it is like and a

1553
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:52,560
whole UFO I forget the name of the

1554
01:17:57,950 --> 01:17:54,880
sci-fi movie but there's a sci-fi movie

1555
01:18:00,780 --> 01:17:57,960
that was shot there with all those

1556
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:00,790
satellite dishes and all those windmills

1557
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:03,310
and stuff that looked almost so alien

1558
01:18:08,250 --> 01:18:05,440
the whole place looks alien really so

1559
01:18:10,530 --> 01:18:08,260
it's um it was very suitable for our

1560
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:10,540
first interview and mr. X was a

1561
01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:13,120
legitimate above top secret witness so

1562
01:18:20,970 --> 01:18:17,260
somehow we caught the imagination of the

1563
01:18:23,370 --> 01:18:20,980
people out there and we did blog you

1564
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,380
know in writing what kind of what we

1565
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:25,440
were doing what was coming next and

1566
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:27,730
literally we're traveling the world with

1567
01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:32,770
a camera which nobody did and and so we

1568
01:18:37,229 --> 01:18:35,350
would tell people that we were about to

1569
01:18:39,630 --> 01:18:37,239
release a such-and-such interview and

1570
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:39,640
people went crazy I mean they were

1571
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:42,489
literally waiting on the edge of their

1572
01:18:49,050 --> 01:18:46,930
seats like at that time and I we know

1573
01:18:50,850 --> 01:18:49,060
this for a fact that we get emails like

1574
01:18:52,890 --> 01:18:50,860
people saying when is this coming out

1575
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:52,900
Windows is coming out and one of the

1576
01:18:56,670 --> 01:18:54,489
people who made us wait the longest

1577
01:19:00,570 --> 01:18:56,680
after the interview because you had have

1578
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:00,580
it vetted by the Pentagon was um Pete

1579
01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:05,530
Peterson and that month people just went

1580
01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:07,390
crazy I mean the guy made us wait and

1581
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:09,670
wait and wait and we kept promising it

1582
01:19:15,390 --> 01:19:12,910
and I just remember how crazy people got

1583
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:15,400
over waiting for that interview and you

1584
01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:17,410
know we interviewed David Wilcock he was

1585
01:19:21,810 --> 01:19:19,030
actually going into hiding when I

1586
01:19:23,670 --> 01:19:21,820
interviewed him he came back onto the

1587
01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:23,680
scene as a result of our interview in

1588
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,310
many ways and in fact that seemed to be

1589
01:19:33,070 --> 01:19:29,840
the magic of Camelot we would go to

1590
01:19:35,650 --> 01:19:33,080
somebody and I we I like to look for the

1591
01:19:37,930 --> 01:19:35,660
ones who people said oh they're not true

1592
01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:37,940
they're lying this or that

1593
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:40,400
so in addition to the unknowns I would

1594
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:42,410
always gravitate to somebody that some

1595
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:46,370
everyone else said was lying so and we

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01:19:50,350 --> 01:19:48,290
would turn it around we for that person

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01:19:52,780 --> 01:19:50,360
we would you know we would talk to them

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and interview them and give them those

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two hours of face time on the internet

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that nobody else got these were not

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01:20:01,120 --> 01:19:58,760
soundbites

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01:20:02,710 --> 01:20:01,130
you could really get a feel for the

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01:20:05,770 --> 01:20:02,720
person in those interviews

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01:20:08,380 --> 01:20:05,780
how was YouTube changed for you over the

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01:20:10,420 --> 01:20:08,390
years since you were you know you know

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01:20:13,180 --> 01:20:10,430
you were there from the very beginning

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01:20:15,250 --> 01:20:13,190
and today it's it's certainly a

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01:20:20,140 --> 01:20:15,260
different animal how has it changed for

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01:20:22,780 --> 01:20:20,150
you do you approach it differently well

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01:20:25,180 --> 01:20:22,790
it's gotten easier in some ways to reach

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01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:25,190
the audience but everyone's doing what I

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01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:28,400
did so everyone does what I do including

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01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:32,450
you I mean it's not unusual anymore back

1614
01:20:37,540 --> 01:20:35,450
then we were like almost the only game

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01:20:39,700 --> 01:20:37,550
in town there was a few others there

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01:20:41,530 --> 01:20:39,710
were some that had come up through you

1617
01:20:44,230 --> 01:20:41,540
know writing articles and things people

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01:20:46,620 --> 01:20:44,240
like Paula Harris and Linda Moulton Howe

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01:20:49,480 --> 01:20:46,630
but we were the ones who picked up the

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01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:49,490
camera and really you know went went at

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01:20:55,780 --> 01:20:51,730
it that way and also in the avocado

1622
01:20:58,840 --> 01:20:55,790
guard style that I chose so you know

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01:21:02,590 --> 01:20:58,850
that's so common now it's in fact it's

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01:21:07,570 --> 01:21:02,600
become the way of the internet and end

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01:21:10,210 --> 01:21:07,580
of YouTube and YouTube is well they've

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01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:10,220
tried to kick me off a couple times you

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01:21:15,460 --> 01:21:12,110
know they gave me strikes because I

1628
01:21:18,970 --> 01:21:15,470
interviewed people about false flags and

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01:21:21,490 --> 01:21:18,980
if you say the word false flags they

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01:21:25,410 --> 01:21:21,500
they'll throw you off YouTube I mean the

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01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:25,420
place has become very crazed like

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01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:30,320
censorship alley really and so you do

1633
01:21:35,350 --> 01:21:32,210
have to watch it now what you do what

1634
01:21:39,460 --> 01:21:35,360
you say they you know this whole

1635
01:21:42,910 --> 01:21:39,470
nonsense about conspiracy theories and

1636
01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:42,920
conspiracy theorists that sort of

1637
01:21:47,260 --> 01:21:45,710
mouthing of that notion and yet when two

1638
01:21:48,580 --> 01:21:47,270
or more people get together to plan

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01:21:52,150 --> 01:21:48,590
anything it could be called as

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01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:52,160
conspiracy and that's going on every

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01:21:57,190 --> 01:21:54,560
minute of every day around the world and

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01:21:59,980 --> 01:21:57,200
if those particular people happen to be

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01:22:02,620 --> 01:21:59,990
members of intelligence agencies members

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01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:02,630
of the military members of governments

1645
01:22:08,170 --> 01:22:05,030
then you get into a whole new you know

1646
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:08,180
land and it is a conspiracy and our

1647
01:22:14,770 --> 01:22:10,370
lives are run by conspiracies as far as

1648
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:14,780
I'm concerned so YouTube has become a

1649
01:22:21,340 --> 01:22:18,890
kind of a minefield in a way it's also I

1650
01:22:23,890 --> 01:22:21,350
mean we've had people go back in and

1651
01:22:25,870 --> 01:22:23,900
test to see if you're getting the number

1652
01:22:28,420 --> 01:22:25,880
of hits that you think you're getting

1653
01:22:32,350 --> 01:22:28,430
and finding out that YouTube is also

1654
01:22:34,450 --> 01:22:32,360
fudging those results lying about the

1655
01:22:36,490 --> 01:22:34,460
number of you know to keep us down to

1656
01:22:39,340 --> 01:22:36,500
keep certain channels down because they

1657
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:39,350
don't want you to go as far as you could

1658
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,810
they keep they throw wrote you know

1659
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:44,480
things like roadblocks in your way to

1660
01:22:47,530 --> 01:22:46,730
screw with you one of the latest things

1661
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:47,540
they've done

1662
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:49,280
I don't know how recently they did this

1663
01:22:54,010 --> 01:22:51,410
but you know it's it's not enough to

1664
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:54,020
subscribe to somebody's YouTube now you

1665
01:23:00,820 --> 01:22:56,570
have to push Sarris yeah yeah no

1666
01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:00,830
no bad language you have to freaking

1667
01:23:07,330 --> 01:23:05,240
push a bell to to tell them to send you

1668
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:07,340
notices when they go live and when they

1669
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:10,730
you know I mean come on you know like

1670
01:23:15,490 --> 01:23:13,490
another step so you know you work so

1671
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:15,500
hard to get subscribers and you work so

1672
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:17,450
hard to get you know viewers and all of

1673
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:20,960
that and they take forty five percent of

1674
01:23:29,140 --> 01:23:24,320
your revenue from ads and that's way too

1675
01:23:31,780 --> 01:23:29,150
much they don't do off easy now

1676
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:31,790
easy now Gary I've got a lot of kids

1677
01:23:36,940 --> 01:23:34,490
that listen to this show such like ten

1678
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:36,950
percent like when an agency gets their

1679
01:23:43,570 --> 01:23:40,610
15% backs I mean get a grip YouTube's

1680
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:43,580
listening and I hope they are well they

1681
01:23:48,340 --> 01:23:46,250
might be but this does broadcast out on

1682
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:48,350
iHeartRadio too as well now I've got to

1683
01:23:55,570 --> 01:23:52,850
go back and clean everything up okay see

1684
01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:55,580
I don't I don't know about

1685
01:23:59,470 --> 01:23:57,920
whole lot of that kind of stuff when it

1686
01:24:03,550 --> 01:23:59,480
comes to YouTube listening to you talk

1687
01:24:07,570 --> 01:24:03,560
about it is it's pretty surprising to me

1688
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:07,580
we don't use YouTube is is like 1/10 of

1689
01:24:14,860 --> 01:24:11,450
a percent of our listenership right it's

1690
01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:14,870
very very small we only use YouTube to

1691
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:18,080
archive that's it yeah and so I don't

1692
01:24:22,570 --> 01:24:20,090
pursue subscribers I don't know how many

1693
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:22,580
subscribers we have I don't you know I

1694
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:25,730
have no idea about the the social part

1695
01:24:33,610 --> 01:24:30,050
of it I do know the you know I'm up on

1696
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:33,620
what happened Alex Jones and and what is

1697
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:35,210
breaking in the news and everything else

1698
01:24:39,970 --> 01:24:37,730
but for us it's such a small part of

1699
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:39,980
what we do you know we that's only

1700
01:24:45,340 --> 01:24:42,080
because you got on to what what is that

1701
01:24:47,170 --> 01:24:45,350
mainstream radio uh-huh yeah well they

1702
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:47,180
wouldn't let me on mainstream radio you

1703
01:24:54,490 --> 01:24:51,250
knew oh you know that's not true

1704
01:24:55,690 --> 01:24:54,500
yeah we're about to find out someone

1705
01:24:59,290 --> 01:24:55,700
thinks they're gonna offer me that

1706
01:25:00,880 --> 01:24:59,300
listen you know it this is a fact you

1707
01:25:02,890 --> 01:25:00,890
haven't you noticed that I don't speak

1708
01:25:05,290 --> 01:25:02,900
it contact in the desert or any of these

1709
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:05,300
other venues where you're speaking

1710
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:08,810
lately what is that non grata I am miss

1711
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:11,330
dangerous I am the one who knows too

1712
01:25:17,890 --> 01:25:14,960
much and I was told that recently by a

1713
01:25:19,780 --> 01:25:17,900
couple sources but is that my choice

1714
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:19,790
that you don't speak at these events I

1715
01:25:25,570 --> 01:25:22,880
mean I thought people go you know pitch

1716
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:25,580
hit for me try to get me recruited to be

1717
01:25:29,860 --> 01:25:27,440
able to speak of these things they

1718
01:25:31,690 --> 01:25:29,870
they're just they are afraid of me you

1719
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:31,700
know they really are why do you why do

1720
01:25:37,870 --> 01:25:34,610
you think that's true because I tell it

1721
01:25:40,210 --> 01:25:37,880
like it is well we know but and I also

1722
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:40,220
have an ability to move people I mean

1723
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:42,770
people come up to me all the time and

1724
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:45,890
say to me you are the real thing and

1725
01:25:50,530 --> 01:25:48,110
what they mean is there is a lot of

1726
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:50,540
posers out there and you know so there

1727
01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:52,370
are a lot of people doing what I do but

1728
01:25:56,710 --> 01:25:53,950
there are also a lot of people

1729
01:25:59,020 --> 01:25:56,720
misleading the public not really asking

1730
01:26:01,750 --> 01:25:59,030
the good hard questions not really

1731
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:01,760
digging in to see what's really going on

1732
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:05,090
with the witnesses look I had Terry

1733
01:26:08,890 --> 01:26:07,130
Lovelace on my show I sent you a message

1734
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:08,900
about it that's right

1735
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:11,840
fact is that night after he got off my

1736
01:26:17,140 --> 01:26:15,290
show he got some kind of sudden I don't

1737
01:26:20,110 --> 01:26:17,150
even know what it is growth like a

1738
01:26:21,780 --> 01:26:20,120
basketball or baseball sized thing he

1739
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:21,790
had to gue be rushed to the hospital

1740
01:26:27,070 --> 01:26:24,650
he's recovering it looks like maybe they

1741
01:26:28,990 --> 01:26:27,080
didn't kill him he was told literally by

1742
01:26:30,820 --> 01:26:29,000
the et that came into his living room

1743
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:30,830
right before he published his book you

1744
01:26:35,890 --> 01:26:33,130
know your government's gonna kill you or

1745
01:26:36,430 --> 01:26:35,900
well my hosts don't are not very happy

1746
01:26:40,090 --> 01:26:36,440
either

1747
01:26:42,970 --> 01:26:40,100
if you publish your book and you know I

1748
01:26:44,620 --> 01:26:42,980
read his book but I also go into some of

1749
01:26:47,260 --> 01:26:44,630
the things that I knew were in the book

1750
01:26:50,500 --> 01:26:47,270
that they are gonna try to downplay and

1751
01:26:53,140 --> 01:26:50,510
that other interviewers might not bring

1752
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:53,150
to light you know but I know where the

1753
01:27:00,729 --> 01:26:54,890
goods are buried I know where the gold

1754
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:00,739
is hidden in their hills you know so go

1755
01:27:09,689 --> 01:27:05,170
ahead ask no it's just interesting how

1756
01:27:13,180 --> 01:27:09,699
today how different people approach

1757
01:27:16,750 --> 01:27:13,190
social media that that do influence and

1758
01:27:18,910 --> 01:27:16,760
that have a large fan base and and a lot

1759
01:27:20,770 --> 01:27:18,920
of influence out there and so we're

1760
01:27:23,770 --> 01:27:20,780
gonna take a break right now but when we

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01:27:26,649 --> 01:27:23,780
come back I want to know some of your

1762
01:27:29,380 --> 01:27:26,659
secrets and how you do approach social

1763
01:27:32,410 --> 01:27:29,390
media because now when you influence so

1764
01:27:34,780 --> 01:27:32,420
many you can change minds in in a

1765
01:27:36,729 --> 01:27:34,790
nanosecond and that's it's an

1766
01:27:37,959 --> 01:27:36,739
interesting time that we live in so

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01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:37,969
let's take a break right here our guest

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01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:40,610
tonight is Kerry Cassidy Project Camelot

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01:27:45,250 --> 01:27:42,800
I am your host Jimmy church this is fade

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to black tomorrow night I want to remind

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:47,060
everybody tomorrow night Tyler Glockner

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of secure team is here a night 3 of

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influence a week on fade to black stay

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Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jaime Church this is a

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[Applause]

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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the host of a church tonight Kerry

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Cassidy Project Camelot is with us night

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2 of influencer week here on fade to

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black

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and she has been influencing for a long

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time and Carrie before we get into

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social media and I do want to discuss

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this is such an important topic but when

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you first started did you have any idea

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that in 2018 we will be discussing how

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you have influenced the community for so

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long did you have any idea no not really

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I mean I I I've always planned to change

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the world so in that sense you know I

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kind of studied to figure out I mean in

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college I studied social change that was

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that was my major you know I was

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interested in influencing people from a

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young age you know I didn't I thought I

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would do it through making movies and

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before that being a rock star but you

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know I wanted to change the world I took

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a look around here when I was a little

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kid and said okay that's it this place

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needs to change big time

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and so you know I guess I I didn't know

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how I would get there and I I think it's

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kind of amazing the trajectory that I

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was on because it was so unconventional

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and I don't know it's it's very weird

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but no I had no idea we had no idea that

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Camelot would be so popular and that I

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didn't know that donations would keep me

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alive all these years later and I mean I

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make money off of advertising on YouTube

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and donations and that is about it

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so you know that's that's it and when

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you look back you just mentioned you

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know 700 interviews is there somebody

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that you didn't get a chance to

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interview that maybe is no longer with

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this or is there somebody out there that

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you would like to interview that you

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well there are a lot of people out there

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that I'd like to interview and haven't

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and have tried you know I want to

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interview Julian Assange I want to

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interview Edward Snowden I want to

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interview Bobbi Ray Inman I want to

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interview and you know I am Jay told the

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real head of mj-12 not some guy who's

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out there saying is and you know so and

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so forth so and I'm happy to interview

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more than just alien-human hybrids which

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is just the norm as far as I'm concerned

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because we're all alien hybrids and as

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far as the ones that got away arthur c

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clarke right right to get an interview

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with him right before he died I like to

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think that they didn't kill him so we

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couldn't interview him you know what I'm

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saying but I can't be sure of even that

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I'm very happy I got in there to

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interview William Tompkins before he

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died

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they told him basically he couldn't

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speak to me and shortly after that he

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died you know what can I tell you it's

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yeah it's a wild playing field out there

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but sure there's ones that got away

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there may be a few others that that died

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now social media today I and I look back

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like we all do you know - 1995 1994 what

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the internet was back then or the lack

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of the internet and what it is developed

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into today we have to approach things

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very methodically and you have a very

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large social footprint out there how do

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you approach it do you are you on

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Facebook yes okay and so do you mean

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you're not my facebook Fri I don't even

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follow that stuff anymore to be honest

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with you I don't use social media like

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some people do to tell people that I

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just went jogging and I'm really glad

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that's what I use it for use it for for

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personal reasons I use it for

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for publicity I see it as a publicity

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tool and that's how I use it and if

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people talk to me on Facebook and we're

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and vice you know various things Twitter

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for example is a great way to reach me

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Twitter messages behind the scenes so

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I'll notice it because my email is

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always inundated and I miss a lot on

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email but yeah use everything I can get

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my hands on more or less although I

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don't you know I don't bring on a lot of

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sort of obscure stuff and it does drive

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me crazy I mean there's so much out

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there but I'm very thankful for it

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because without it I couldn't stay alive

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and I couldn't reach the people so I use

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it as a way to reach the people and what

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about Twitter do you approach that

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differently no again it's not personal

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it's it's it's public every once in a

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really great while I'll post if you pay

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attention to my Facebook I will

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occasionally like there's a picture of

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me and my boyfriend right you know in

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Yosemite I mean that's a very rare kind

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of thing you'll ever see but you know

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just out of exuberance and having fun

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during the summer or something I'm not

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opposed to that but generally if you

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look and my whole history of posts I

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mean there's very little about me

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personally it's always about my shows

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and do you think well I kind of know

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your answer to this knowing you but do

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you think that there is a ball type of

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conspiracy with the social media

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companies to censor and to clamp down

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where they are working together not

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necessarily individually but like what

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happened with Alex Jones you know to

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have all of that go down and within a

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few hours of each other it certainly

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seems to me that they were all

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facetiming and discussing what they were

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gonna do in advance do you think that

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really goes on absolutely I mean somehow

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they get a notice I don't know how I I

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do think they have intelligence agencies

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working for them for one thing

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that are embedded if you want to call it

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that the fact is that if your name is

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James Fetzer you get a red flag no

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matter where you go nowadays because of

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his emphasis on false flags and because

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he's such an amazing scholar and

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ex-marine and you know a college

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professor that's written I don't know

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some astronomical number of books over

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ten and he documented mates you know

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documents everything with you know

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incredible research and they're scared

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to death of him so they you know any and

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that's why I got flagged two or three

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times almost got my youtube channel

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removed it but if he tows the line like

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I actually did another interview because

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I have a tendency to kind of bait the

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tiger so to speak and so I did an

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interview after all that with him but he

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didn't talk about anything controversial

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we didn't go into the mind control

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Manchurian Candidate aspect of you know

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Vegas or all these different you know

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latest things that are going on I mean

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they are really afraid of their their

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modus operandi has now been discovered

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and that false flags are kind of like

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their biggest calling card that's the

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way they keep the population cowed

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afraid is by you know and now the latest

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weather way they're doing it is through

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weather Wars and you know then the fires

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in California and you know and the

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Hurricanes they're always making

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hurricanes and directing them you know

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at people and and at areas of the United

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States that they want to take down I

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mean you know this this is a whole

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ongoing war as far as I'm concerned and

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yes social media is right in the thick

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of it what about these certain people

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that write for veterans today like

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Preston James who's a fabulous writer

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and writes some very fascinating

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articles I you cannot post a link to his

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articles they will not allow it I mean

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the guy is freaking banned from Facebook

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and all he's done is written articles

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perfect

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legitimate researched articles very

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intelligent and you know I mean it is a

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war out there there's no doubt about it

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and the fact that I've survived this so

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far maybe because I'm the you know don't

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kill the messenger I'm the interviewer I

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don't know you know so far so good but

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it's very you know it can be very dicey

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and I mean I've been told our our

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website is banned in countries we've

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we've got three URLs now to reach a spy

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because you know Germany bans us I mean

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I've gotten reports from people lots of

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places ban us

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so it's Project Camelot TV Project

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Camelot portal calm and Project Camelot

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dot o-r-g and hopefully they haven't

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banned us under all those URLs but you

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never know we're desperate I mean I got

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stopped and searched it in the UK

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Airport and right in front of everyone

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all that you know all the terrorists got

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to walk free that day but I was searched

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it was your jacket but see this is the

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thing is it is it the is it the content

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in general or is it conspiracies or is

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it is it is it the knowledge of UFOs you

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know is there a sub-genre down here that

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is is causing the issues that they're

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interested in because you know keep in

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mind you can't you can't sort of take

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someone to task or to it to or do a

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trial on a UFO subject

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that's why Gary McKinnon never went to

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real trial he was tried under the fact

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that he supposedly had Asperger's and

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you know in other words they never let

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him admit into evidence the fact that he

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had actually found evidence of UFOs and

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fleet to fleet transfers and off world

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officers lists of officers I mean get

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real no that's the one loophole that

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when it changes I will be public enemy

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number one

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because

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you're not allowed to talk look they

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can't take you to court over a UFO case

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now in England they do have an

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antiquated law that lets them take kids

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away from their parents who admit it

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admit to dealing with ETS yeah yeah I've

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heard that but what what I find

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interesting is with the ability for

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Google and the NSA to censor monitor

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block and control web traffic but yet

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WikiLeaks manages to run unscathed and

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and and do these document dumps so I've

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always wondered how Julian Assange is

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able to keep things running over there

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if if you wanted to run interference

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I mean wicked he's not dealing with UFOs

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for one thing but on the other hand he

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has he has not much the bottom line is

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that he's being fed by certain

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intelligence agencies and you know the

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zionist side of israel you know don't

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forget that's a big sort of foot in in

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the pond so to speak and so it's it's

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yeah it's a complex game but this stuff

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is going on you can definitely you want

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to look for censorship and you want to

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follow the sort of threads and the and

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the clues it's there believe me all our

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votes the way they censor me and not

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only by not letting me speak at major

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conferences I have to have my own but

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aside from that is by screwing with my

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01:45:18,430 --> 01:45:15,590
technology no matter what I do you know

2120
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:18,440
one time I had Linda Moulton Howe on my

2121
01:45:23,649 --> 01:45:21,050
show the last thing they want is for two

2122
01:45:25,509 --> 01:45:23,659
people like us to talk to each other you

2123
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:25,519
wouldn't believe the interference on

2124
01:45:29,799 --> 01:45:27,530
that show and you know from day to day

2125
01:45:32,049 --> 01:45:29,809
my technology doesn't change it stays

2126
01:45:34,589 --> 01:45:32,059
the same so what they really want to

2127
01:45:37,870 --> 01:45:34,599
interfere I mean I've had him knock

2128
01:45:40,270 --> 01:45:37,880
people completely off YouTube and closed

2129
01:45:43,330 --> 01:45:40,280
my channel like the whole thing come

2130
01:45:45,729 --> 01:45:43,340
down and and there's no way this can

2131
01:45:47,770 --> 01:45:45,739
happen without them shooting a pulse at

2132
01:45:50,670 --> 01:45:47,780
your computer so they're they're always

2133
01:45:52,740 --> 01:45:50,680
there they're always monitoring and

2134
01:45:56,490 --> 01:45:52,750
it's it I mean over the years it's

2135
01:45:58,560 --> 01:45:56,500
gotten so they wouldn't even have a trip

2136
01:46:00,360 --> 01:45:58,570
have trouble with my guests but they

2137
01:46:02,940 --> 01:46:00,370
would interfere with every other word I

2138
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:02,950
said it's been crazy

2139
01:46:08,670 --> 01:46:05,770
I mean I've monitored this for years and

2140
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:08,680
all I can tell you is you're not

2141
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:10,210
paranoid when they're really out to get

2142
01:46:16,440 --> 01:46:13,170
you well you've been pushing for

2143
01:46:19,860 --> 01:46:16,450
disclosure from you know virtually day

2144
01:46:22,890 --> 01:46:19,870
one and you're you're covering of all of

2145
01:46:25,620 --> 01:46:22,900
this 2018 was a pretty dramatic year

2146
01:46:27,660 --> 01:46:25,630
when we did want and going back to

2147
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:27,670
December of 2017 it goes without saying

2148
01:46:34,220 --> 01:46:30,250
with the New York Times and CNN and Fox

2149
01:46:37,500 --> 01:46:34,230
and the coverage that that went global

2150
01:46:42,260 --> 01:46:37,510
it seemed like we were making some

2151
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:42,270
products something was tangible suddenly

2152
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:45,610
how do you feel about that change their

2153
01:46:50,940 --> 01:46:47,530
approach they have changed their

2154
01:46:53,490 --> 01:46:50,950
approach because now there is evidence

2155
01:46:56,130 --> 01:46:53,500
that certain et groups have had it that

2156
01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:56,140
they want humans to to wake up and to

2157
01:46:59,820 --> 01:46:57,970
know that they're there first of all and

2158
01:47:02,490 --> 01:46:59,830
to the gloves are off

2159
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:02,500
there's a certain point a couple years

2160
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:04,810
ago not too many when the Satanists

2161
01:47:10,010 --> 01:47:07,690
decided to just come out as who they are

2162
01:47:14,250 --> 01:47:10,020
and they were proud of it and they

2163
01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:14,260
frickin have and so you know this stuff

2164
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:17,440
is now coming out more and more and look

2165
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:21,520
the deep space program the secret space

2166
01:47:26,900 --> 01:47:24,610
programs with an S but mainly the one

2167
01:47:30,990 --> 01:47:26,910
run by the US and the five eyes and

2168
01:47:33,510 --> 01:47:31,000
Russia's in there as well look they're

2169
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:33,520
dealing with problems that are much

2170
01:47:38,340 --> 01:47:36,370
bigger than you know humans like me and

2171
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:38,350
you or somebody out there telling the

2172
01:47:42,750 --> 01:47:40,330
truth to other humans they're dealing

2173
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:42,760
with off world cultures now that and an

2174
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:45,040
AI to say nothing about artificial

2175
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:47,650
intelligence coming from aliens all

2176
01:47:53,010 --> 01:47:50,530
right coming to our planet I mean

2177
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:53,020
they're playing field has gotten so much

2178
01:47:58,860 --> 01:47:56,290
more complex and the bottom line is they

2179
01:48:01,200 --> 01:47:58,870
need all the help they can get and I

2180
01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:01,210
think that you know in the process of

2181
01:48:06,690 --> 01:48:04,480
eliminating a good part of the so

2182
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:06,700
useless eaters as they call them which

2183
01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:09,610
they are obviously hell-bent to do

2184
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:11,620
turning this into a methane rich

2185
01:48:18,150 --> 01:48:15,130
radiation rich environment making it

2186
01:48:21,870 --> 01:48:18,160
home much more friendly to reptilians

2187
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:21,880
and Grey's they are in the process of

2188
01:48:27,810 --> 01:48:23,890
trying to weed the wheat from the chaff

2189
01:48:29,670 --> 01:48:27,820
and if you can handle this atmosphere

2190
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:29,680
then they want you they want your

2191
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:33,610
genetics they want your kids etc you

2192
01:48:39,300 --> 01:48:35,650
know they want the strongest to survive

2193
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:39,310
as always so this is the game being

2194
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:43,090
played and why would the news it's part

2195
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:46,000
of that game it's not disclosure isn't

2196
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:48,370
just some president coming out on major

2197
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:50,530
TV and saying yes they're here

2198
01:48:55,140 --> 01:48:52,330
disclosure first of all is what we're

2199
01:48:57,630 --> 01:48:55,150
doing right here but secondly disclosure

2200
01:49:00,300 --> 01:48:57,640
is also happening on the ground with the

2201
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:00,310
ETS and they're getting closer and

2202
01:49:05,610 --> 01:49:02,530
closer to the surface the war is

2203
01:49:07,980 --> 01:49:05,620
becoming more and more obvious and the

2204
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:07,990
in the wars would in Calla you know the

2205
01:49:14,850 --> 01:49:11,250
wars in their fires in California as

2206
01:49:17,190 --> 01:49:14,860
Mark Richards has said there are you

2207
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:17,200
know vortex vortex is opening and

2208
01:49:21,540 --> 01:49:18,730
various beings are trying to come

2209
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:21,550
through they try to close the vortexes

2210
01:49:26,940 --> 01:49:24,070
they've got collateral damage they need

2211
01:49:29,070 --> 01:49:26,950
to make some kind of misdirect they're

2212
01:49:31,230 --> 01:49:29,080
you know there's all kinds of crazy

2213
01:49:33,210 --> 01:49:31,240
going down okay we got to watch the

2214
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:33,220
final language Kerry you're gonna make

2215
01:49:39,660 --> 01:49:33,610
it

2216
01:49:42,030 --> 01:49:39,670
well you the bleep happens I guess

2217
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:42,040
they're just gonna laugh okay so but

2218
01:49:49,170 --> 01:49:46,930
staying on disclosure why why would the

2219
01:49:51,780 --> 01:49:49,180
New York Times suddenly take an

2220
01:49:53,460 --> 01:49:51,790
about-face and the other thing and so

2221
01:49:56,250 --> 01:49:53,470
will I want you to address the New York

2222
01:49:59,820 --> 01:49:56,260
Times directly but also it seemed like

2223
01:50:02,900 --> 01:49:59,830
Fox CNN a little bit BBC a little bit

2224
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:02,910
but Fox took the ball and ran with it

2225
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,310
why they you know they weren't giggling

2226
01:50:11,670 --> 01:50:08,800
or playing x-files music anymore

2227
01:50:13,590 --> 01:50:11,680
why that kind of about-face God the

2228
01:50:14,750 --> 01:50:13,600
directive from the people that run them

2229
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:14,760
I mean

2230
01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:17,010
you know the New York Times is totally

2231
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:19,920
run by the CIA and NSA and everyone else

2232
01:50:23,540 --> 01:50:22,050
they have to cater these people so you

2233
01:50:25,129 --> 01:50:23,550
don't think it was you don't think

2234
01:50:25,850 --> 01:50:25,139
they're marching orders they were told

2235
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:25,860
what to do

2236
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:28,050
that's not disclosure anyway you know

2237
01:50:33,709 --> 01:50:30,090
these Tic Tac and all of this these are

2238
01:50:36,709 --> 01:50:33,719
these are sanitized stories okay even

2239
01:50:38,569 --> 01:50:36,719
recent Bob Lazar coming forward he was

2240
01:50:39,890 --> 01:50:38,579
tasked to come forward there's no two

2241
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:39,900
ways about it

2242
01:50:44,660 --> 01:50:42,090
the guy has denied interviews and not

2243
01:50:48,770 --> 01:50:44,670
wanted to talk about this stuff for ages

2244
01:50:51,470 --> 01:50:48,780
suddenly he makes a movie seriously you

2245
01:50:53,959 --> 01:50:51,480
know bottom line even you could tell

2246
01:50:55,490 --> 01:50:53,969
that he's still pretty much unwilling

2247
01:50:57,229 --> 01:50:55,500
but the you know you should have

2248
01:50:59,479 --> 01:50:57,239
listened to my show with John Lear I

2249
01:51:01,790 --> 01:50:59,489
told you we had a great time on that

2250
01:51:05,330 --> 01:51:01,800
show that was his birthday show and I

2251
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:05,340
asked him all about Bob Lazar and what

2252
01:51:10,250 --> 01:51:08,130
he said on that movie etc and he

2253
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:10,260
basically blew that film out of the

2254
01:51:16,759 --> 01:51:14,250
water how so because he said that Bob

2255
01:51:20,839 --> 01:51:16,769
Lazar not only met one alien he's met

2256
01:51:25,129 --> 01:51:20,849
several and Bob said in the movie I I

2257
01:51:27,319 --> 01:51:25,139
think it was just a doll right it

2258
01:51:29,629 --> 01:51:27,329
supposedly his mind is so wiped at this

2259
01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:29,639
point look he admitted even then he

2260
01:51:33,950 --> 01:51:32,159
admitted that his mind has been wiped he

2261
01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:33,960
admitted this to John Lear he said he

2262
01:51:39,379 --> 01:51:36,480
didn't want to go back to work for these

2263
01:51:42,890 --> 01:51:39,389
people he quit because they were wiping

2264
01:51:45,290 --> 01:51:42,900
his mind you know if he if he denies

2265
01:51:47,899 --> 01:51:45,300
that story it's because he's being he's

2266
01:51:49,790 --> 01:51:47,909
in he's in the payroll you know back on

2267
01:51:52,100 --> 01:51:49,800
the payroll it's not like he never was

2268
01:51:53,779 --> 01:51:52,110
he went back on the payroll anyway

2269
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:53,789
between now and when he was first

2270
01:51:58,729 --> 01:51:56,489
working for them I mean you know and

2271
01:52:01,220 --> 01:51:58,739
John also said which is I think fairly

2272
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:01,230
explosive that they planned that Lazar

2273
01:52:07,819 --> 01:52:03,690
was going to be their fall guy from day

2274
01:52:10,850 --> 01:52:07,829
one they hired him for that purpose they

2275
01:52:13,339 --> 01:52:10,860
hired him yes he had the technical specs

2276
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:13,349
yes he was you know a frickin technical

2277
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:16,650
genius he was also a contactee you you

2278
01:52:20,419 --> 01:52:17,760
know there's no way you're gonna ever

2279
01:52:23,089 --> 01:52:20,429
convince me otherwise and you know he's

2280
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:23,099
not talking about all that I mean this

2281
01:52:28,639 --> 01:52:25,920
story has not been revealed in its true

2282
01:52:31,279 --> 01:52:28,649
colors but I can tell you John

2283
01:52:33,739 --> 01:52:31,289
you know John's getting older he he you

2284
01:52:36,589 --> 01:52:33,749
know he's a loose cannon he worked with

2285
01:52:38,899 --> 01:52:36,599
mj-12 you know I used to kid John all

2286
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:38,909
the time I said your your mj-12 aren't

2287
01:52:47,629 --> 01:52:41,840
you John he didn't deny it

2288
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:47,639
so speechless because that would at

2289
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:49,679
first no no no not at all

2290
01:52:56,179 --> 01:52:53,489
there's so many questions here obviously

2291
01:52:59,060 --> 01:52:56,189
we all wondered why Bob would suddenly

2292
01:53:01,819 --> 01:52:59,070
come forward there's the simple side of

2293
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:01,829
it right the logical side were one money

2294
01:53:08,869 --> 01:53:05,760
one would say that his old friends with

2295
01:53:12,469 --> 01:53:08,879
nap he wants to throw Jeremy Korbel a

2296
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:12,479
bone and and get you know Bob to agree

2297
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:17,610
to do a documentary for Jeremy and not

2298
01:53:24,619 --> 01:53:22,110
such a good thing what tales about a

2299
01:53:26,750 --> 01:53:24,629
school but I'm not gonna you know say a

2300
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:26,760
whole lot but I'll just say that let's

2301
01:53:31,399 --> 01:53:29,010
just say that Jeremy was seen for who he

2302
01:53:35,929 --> 01:53:31,409
really was by at least John Lear and

2303
01:53:37,909 --> 01:53:35,939
friends okay I don't know where you're

2304
01:53:42,500 --> 01:53:37,919
going with that lucky he's not being

2305
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:42,510
sued who Jeremy or urged me Korbel it's

2306
01:53:48,169 --> 01:53:44,249
not being sued Oh interesting

2307
01:53:50,330 --> 01:53:48,179
okay well I'm sure Jeremy well he may be

2308
01:53:52,219 --> 01:53:50,340
listening now but he will listen to the

2309
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:52,229
replay of this show

2310
01:53:57,429 --> 01:53:55,050
certainly the way he is I mean I'm

2311
01:54:01,189 --> 01:53:57,439
inviting you for an interview Jeremy oh

2312
01:54:03,319 --> 01:54:01,199
you want his number I'm sure you can

2313
01:54:04,879 --> 01:54:03,329
give me that back channel but you know

2314
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:04,889
whenever you give me someone's number

2315
01:54:08,949 --> 01:54:07,110
they never call back right well why do

2316
01:54:12,859 --> 01:54:08,959
you think is it because they're scared

2317
01:54:16,459 --> 01:54:12,869
yeah because they are scared um you know

2318
01:54:19,489 --> 01:54:16,469
it's okay I get it I mean look I I do

2319
01:54:21,679 --> 01:54:19,499
push the envelope I I think that people

2320
01:54:25,310 --> 01:54:21,689
can handle the truth in fact I think

2321
01:54:26,449 --> 01:54:25,320
they need it desperately you know right

2322
01:54:28,429 --> 01:54:26,459
before I came on the show I was

2323
01:54:30,529 --> 01:54:28,439
listening to rich stolen interview David

2324
01:54:32,709 --> 01:54:30,539
Jacobs you know I've invited David

2325
01:54:35,839 --> 01:54:32,719
Jacobs for an interview a zillion times

2326
01:54:37,609 --> 01:54:35,849
no reply now I don't know if that means

2327
01:54:39,919 --> 01:54:37,619
that they did they don't want to do an

2328
01:54:42,170 --> 01:54:39,929
interview or that my email never arrives

2329
01:54:45,110 --> 01:54:42,180
because I know those both those cases

2330
01:54:47,630 --> 01:54:45,120
but at any rate I have to tell you you

2331
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:47,640
know in his scenario and his scenario is

2332
01:54:53,150 --> 01:54:49,890
not completely correct but it is very

2333
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:53,160
very good he basically is talking about

2334
01:54:58,100 --> 01:54:55,770
the progress of the gray human hybrid

2335
01:55:01,160 --> 01:54:58,110
program and the take over a planet Earth

2336
01:55:04,700 --> 01:55:01,170
I mean you know they walk among us

2337
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:04,710
that's his book you know don't listen to

2338
01:55:09,530 --> 01:55:07,920
me don't believe me we you know watch my

2339
01:55:13,220 --> 01:55:09,540
latest interview with Terry Lovelace

2340
01:55:15,260 --> 01:55:13,230
talk talk about what he saw in the

2341
01:55:17,180 --> 01:55:15,270
aquarium the wall-sized

2342
01:55:19,130 --> 01:55:17,190
aquarium that had what he thought were

2343
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:19,140
puppies that turned out to be

2344
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:22,530
genetically engineered what hybrid

2345
01:55:29,390 --> 01:55:25,770
beings floating around in some pink

2346
01:55:33,730 --> 01:55:29,400
stuff I mean and lots of them not just a

2347
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:33,740
few you know this stuff is real and and

2348
01:55:38,660 --> 01:55:37,110
why people want to hide their heads in

2349
01:55:40,250 --> 01:55:38,670
the sand other than the fact that

2350
01:55:41,780 --> 01:55:40,260
they've been programmed day at night by

2351
01:55:44,420 --> 01:55:41,790
their television their fluorescent

2352
01:55:46,670 --> 01:55:44,430
lights their food their water and every

2353
01:55:49,550 --> 01:55:46,680
other device known to man that these

2354
01:55:51,470 --> 01:55:49,560
people can and aliens can think up and

2355
01:55:53,690 --> 01:55:51,480
had their minds wiped also when they get

2356
01:55:56,270 --> 01:55:53,700
abducted but you know what I'm saying I

2357
01:55:57,130 --> 01:55:56,280
mean this you know what I'm talking

2358
01:56:02,830 --> 01:55:57,140
about Jimmy

2359
01:56:06,620 --> 01:56:02,840
well I I do I do understand that and I

2360
01:56:08,780 --> 01:56:06,630
what I try to do and this is just me I'm

2361
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:08,790
just gonna say this for 30 seconds

2362
01:56:14,990 --> 01:56:11,370
because this is about you Kerry tonight

2363
01:56:17,090 --> 01:56:15,000
but what I try to do is collect as much

2364
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:17,100
of this out there like you have been

2365
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:19,110
doing and get it all out there on the

2366
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:21,450
table for everybody to listen to because

2367
01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:23,850
I think that there is little pieces of

2368
01:56:31,180 --> 01:56:27,840
everybody's experiences and and witness

2369
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:31,190
and testimony and research that

2370
01:56:37,490 --> 01:56:33,810
collectively we're gonna get closer to

2371
01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:37,500
the answer you know I don't know what

2372
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:40,170
those answers are but the audience needs

2373
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:43,170
to hear let's say you have a big freakin

2374
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:45,330
clue I mean you know at this point this

2375
01:56:50,780 --> 01:56:47,490
is where the we this is where I differ

2376
01:56:55,340 --> 01:56:50,790
from the rest of you I am willing to add

2377
01:56:55,670 --> 01:56:55,350
two and two and you guys are not in your

2378
01:56:57,770 --> 01:56:55,680
own

2379
01:57:01,310 --> 01:56:57,780
mine no just let me kind of sit how am I

2380
01:57:04,490 --> 01:57:01,320
say here okay cuz you know the bottom

2381
01:57:06,830 --> 01:57:04,500
line is yes we all see the evidence out

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01:57:08,900 --> 01:57:06,840
there we all listen to the testimonies

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01:57:11,900 --> 01:57:08,910
and they are there you know the

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01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:11,910
testimonies are just you know gargantuan

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01:57:16,430 --> 01:57:14,130
at this time we have people from every

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01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:16,440
walk of life you know Terry Lovelace

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01:57:21,410 --> 01:57:19,410
kept quiet for 40 years he's a lawyer he

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01:57:24,140 --> 01:57:21,420
was in the Air Force when it happened to

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01:57:29,060 --> 01:57:24,150
him you know the bottom line is that

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01:57:31,370 --> 01:57:29,070
people are telling the truth we are the

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01:57:35,060 --> 01:57:31,380
truth tellers of the planet

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the people and I do nothing but talk to

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the people day in and day out as you do

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okay and at a certain point even if you

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were in a court room

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01:57:50,180 --> 01:57:46,650
the evidence would begin to mount up and

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01:57:53,030 --> 01:57:50,190
you would eventually go in a certain

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01:57:56,780 --> 01:57:53,040
direction towards a verdict you would

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suddenly to some degree see the writing

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01:58:02,240 --> 01:57:59,310
on the wall and our military has no

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choice but to do that and of course they

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01:58:07,010 --> 01:58:04,200
have to see the negative side of things

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they have to prepare for the worst

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and the worst may be worse than you even

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imagine that's what I've been told by

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whistleblowers okay that is even worse

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01:58:21,620 --> 01:58:18,630
than we imagined so it's not fairy land

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01:58:24,170 --> 01:58:21,630
out there and humans are being killed

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abducted children are being raped and

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taken for their blood and organs etc and

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slave colonies have been taken off

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planet Earth this is happening to your

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01:58:37,700 --> 01:58:35,250
fellow man now in Nazi Germany would you

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01:58:40,780 --> 01:58:37,710
just sit by and say nothing and say well

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01:58:43,850 --> 01:58:40,790
all the evidence isn't in yet right

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01:58:45,620 --> 01:58:43,860
I'm sorry and I know I know

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01:58:47,390 --> 01:58:45,630
you're gonna have to take out the second

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01:58:49,490 --> 01:58:47,400
part of that word seriously on modern

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01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:49,500
radio today you can't even swear yeah

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01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:51,690
are they really that lily-white why

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don't why not carry carry kids listen to

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01:58:58,370 --> 01:58:56,430
this show too

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01:59:01,460 --> 01:58:58,380
okay so we got a reason we're up and

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01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:01,470
down what do you keep from them then I

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01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:02,250
know

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01:59:06,910 --> 01:59:03,810
let's take a break right here our guest

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01:59:09,830 --> 01:59:06,920
tonight is Kerry Cassidy potty-mouth

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01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:09,840
Seiler Kerry Cassidy having a great

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01:59:12,170 --> 01:59:11,730
conversation tonight this is fade to

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black

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we'll be right back stay with us

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[Applause]

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02:03:44,899 --> 02:03:42,219
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really love ponies I'm serious I

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02:04:22,380 --> 02:04:21,190
welcome back baby black I am your host

2543
02:04:25,410 --> 02:04:22,390
Jimmy Church you can follow me on

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02:04:27,810 --> 02:04:25,420
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2545
02:04:32,070 --> 02:04:27,820
at project Camelot's right there we've

2546
02:04:35,490 --> 02:04:32,080
got it up in Twitter and what was that

2547
02:04:40,140 --> 02:04:35,500
Carey I know I was just coughing oh you

2548
02:04:42,959 --> 02:04:40,150
were coughing cough button I want to

2549
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:42,969
talk about John Lear you just did a

2550
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:44,770
recent interview with him and it goes

2551
02:04:50,189 --> 02:04:47,650
without saying that I have watched your

2552
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:50,199
part 1 part 2 part 3 with John that you

2553
02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:53,890
did so many times and there was a lot of

2554
02:05:00,150 --> 02:04:56,170
history that went down in those those

2555
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:00,160
sessions that you did before but you

2556
02:05:05,669 --> 02:05:02,530
just recently interviewed him I want to

2557
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:05,679
discuss that but how for you has John

2558
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:11,920
changed over the years I don't know you

2559
02:05:18,419 --> 02:05:14,650
know he seems kind of the same guy I've

2560
02:05:21,180 --> 02:05:18,429
always known he's one thing about John

2561
02:05:23,370 --> 02:05:21,190
that I've always admired is he will

2562
02:05:26,939 --> 02:05:23,380
stick to his guns and sometimes he will

2563
02:05:28,950 --> 02:05:26,949
be slightly irrational about certain

2564
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:28,960
things that he has reached his own

2565
02:05:36,209 --> 02:05:32,170
conclusion on but if you bring him good

2566
02:05:38,189 --> 02:05:36,219
information good new evidence he will

2567
02:05:42,090 --> 02:05:38,199
actually sit and listen and he will

2568
02:05:45,780 --> 02:05:42,100
change his mind he doesn't have to stick

2569
02:05:50,220 --> 02:05:45,790
to his guns he's not like a fanatic

2570
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:50,230
in terms of anything I don't think maybe

2571
02:05:57,740 --> 02:05:54,370
good whisky or something I you know he's

2572
02:06:02,010 --> 02:05:57,750
basically the same guy the same wiseass

2573
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:02,020
you know joking you know man about the

2574
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:05,170
world I mean you know he he's a movie

2575
02:06:10,410 --> 02:06:08,170
star that's what John is he's everything

2576
02:06:13,919 --> 02:06:10,420
every movie star ever wanted to be

2577
02:06:15,780 --> 02:06:13,929
that's John Lear did you leave that with

2578
02:06:18,479 --> 02:06:15,790
the other the first set of interviews

2579
02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:18,489
that you did was there stuff that didn't

2580
02:06:22,490 --> 02:06:21,190
get into those interviews on the cutting

2581
02:06:25,290 --> 02:06:22,500
room floor

2582
02:06:28,650 --> 02:06:25,300
no you know you have to understand how

2583
02:06:30,419 --> 02:06:28,660
Camelot works we it's part of the reason

2584
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:30,429
my interviews are so long basically

2585
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:31,210
unless

2586
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:35,410
a person badmouth somebody you know in

2587
02:06:40,380 --> 02:06:37,570
which case they'd be open to I don't

2588
02:06:42,420 --> 02:06:40,390
know libel or something of that nature

2589
02:06:45,930 --> 02:06:42,430
in which case we would take out the name

2590
02:06:49,260 --> 02:06:45,940
we don't we don't we didn't edit out

2591
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:49,270
things all we did was try to put in you

2592
02:06:57,090 --> 02:06:52,930
know make it have continuity try to make

2593
02:06:58,320 --> 02:06:57,100
it clear but by and large the reason the

2594
02:07:00,000 --> 02:06:58,330
interviews are so long is because

2595
02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:00,010
they're pretty much as long as they were

2596
02:07:05,190 --> 02:07:02,800
when we did them you know what I mean so

2597
02:07:07,650 --> 02:07:05,200
there's very little taken out ever of

2598
02:07:10,650 --> 02:07:07,660
Camelot interviews and nowadays you know

2599
02:07:12,810 --> 02:07:10,660
I prefer to go live I prefer to be in a

2600
02:07:14,100 --> 02:07:12,820
live honest fear because I don't have

2601
02:07:17,340 --> 02:07:14,110
anything to hide

2602
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:17,350
and I I do want to know everything and I

2603
02:07:24,390 --> 02:07:20,320
figure that if I'm coming from that

2604
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:24,400
standpoint that that the witness the the

2605
02:07:29,670 --> 02:07:27,190
person I'm interviewing senses it and

2606
02:07:32,490 --> 02:07:29,680
they feel comfortable you know in the

2607
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:32,500
end of the day all humanity we're in

2608
02:07:38,190 --> 02:07:35,650
this together and we need to tell each

2609
02:07:41,010 --> 02:07:38,200
other the truth I mean we really do and

2610
02:07:44,340 --> 02:07:41,020
on the level of the people you know I'm

2611
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:44,350
not working for some clandestine

2612
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:47,770
organization and I'm not working for a

2613
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:50,320
government but I am working for the

2614
02:07:58,500 --> 02:07:53,410
people and I'm all about seeing humanity

2615
02:08:01,050 --> 02:07:58,510
succeed when you interviewed John and

2616
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:01,060
you've done so many interviews right but

2617
02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:04,000
when you're interviewing John was there

2618
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:06,310
a moment where you just went okay that

2619
02:08:11,190 --> 02:08:08,530
you know that's a holy crap moment right

2620
02:08:17,090 --> 02:08:11,200
there even for you because I had a few

2621
02:08:21,810 --> 02:08:20,010
it's it's you know it's it's a lot of

2622
02:08:25,170 --> 02:08:21,820
water under the bridge so it's hard for

2623
02:08:28,500 --> 02:08:25,180
me to remember that kind of thing but I

2624
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:28,510
can tell you that you have to understand

2625
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:30,130
again kind of put yourself in the

2626
02:08:37,979 --> 02:08:32,890
headspace that I already was when I

2627
02:08:40,590 --> 02:08:37,989
started doing interviews I already took

2628
02:08:44,370 --> 02:08:40,600
on the whole thing you know I I have had

2629
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:44,380
very little aha moments along the way to

2630
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:44,650
be

2631
02:09:00,360 --> 02:08:56,610
lunch coming back through a jump room

2632
02:09:01,709 --> 02:09:00,370
you know there's a few where you go all

2633
02:09:04,260 --> 02:09:01,719
right well I'm gonna have to take this

2634
02:09:07,290 --> 02:09:04,270
on board this is a bit you know a bit

2635
02:09:10,140 --> 02:09:07,300
much bit wild but John you know now you

2636
02:09:12,810 --> 02:09:10,150
don't have to always agree with John not

2637
02:09:14,689 --> 02:09:12,820
everything he says is necessarily can

2638
02:09:17,669 --> 02:09:14,699
you take to the bank

2639
02:09:20,850 --> 02:09:17,679
keep in mind that he's playing a careful

2640
02:09:23,610 --> 02:09:20,860
game he's a showman he tells you you

2641
02:09:27,149 --> 02:09:23,620
know what he believes he's a straight

2642
02:09:29,459 --> 02:09:27,159
shooter so he goes with his gut he he

2643
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:29,469
kind of that's how he deals with you

2644
02:09:34,979 --> 02:09:32,050
like when he just on my interview just

2645
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:34,989
you know like last week was it during

2646
02:09:40,649 --> 02:09:38,250
his birthday literally on his birthday

2647
02:09:42,510 --> 02:09:40,659
he's and he said that thing about they

2648
02:09:45,209 --> 02:09:42,520
used Bob from the very beginning you

2649
02:09:47,550 --> 02:09:45,219
know he's not saying that because he

2650
02:09:51,060 --> 02:09:47,560
thinks it he's saying it cuz he frickin

2651
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:51,070
knows it I didn't swear Jimmy no no you

2652
02:09:58,229 --> 02:09:54,730
didn't and thank you for that saying so

2653
02:10:00,959 --> 02:09:58,239
so all I'm saying is that let me let me

2654
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:00,969
stop you this let me stop you there for

2655
02:10:10,229 --> 02:10:05,850
a second did did he have the feeling in

2656
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:10,239
1990 that Bob was being used I mean or

2657
02:10:16,770 --> 02:10:12,610
is this something that he has you know

2658
02:10:20,220 --> 02:10:16,780
morphed into over the years well let me

2659
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:20,230
just say this that Bob that John if you

2660
02:10:24,930 --> 02:10:23,199
look at his history of his oh god I

2661
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:24,940
forget who it is because I often get it

2662
02:10:31,740 --> 02:10:27,520
mixed up but I guess his you know his

2663
02:10:34,919 --> 02:10:31,750
father was working for mj-12 his his

2664
02:10:36,959 --> 02:10:34,929
mother was the girlfriend of Jimmy

2665
02:10:39,240 --> 02:10:36,969
Doolittle or whoever the hell it was you

2666
02:10:41,669 --> 02:10:39,250
know I mean he tells these stories it

2667
02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:41,679
you know he was he grew up in it you

2668
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:45,520
know he grew up in this and he was a

2669
02:10:48,930 --> 02:10:48,370
wild boy he was you know flying for the

2670
02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:48,940
CIA

2671
02:10:53,399 --> 02:10:51,250
he has look I went to his birthday party

2672
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:53,409
last year this year they wouldn't let me

2673
02:10:57,899 --> 02:10:56,170
in they said it's because I was filming

2674
02:10:59,969 --> 02:10:57,909
but I was filming for John

2675
02:11:02,609 --> 02:10:59,979
I swore that I would never release the

2676
02:11:04,589 --> 02:11:02,619
film it's just I give it to John if you

2677
02:11:07,589 --> 02:11:04,599
want he wanted the recollection of you

2678
02:11:09,509 --> 02:11:07,599
know people in his life but those people

2679
02:11:10,949 --> 02:11:09,519
didn't want me back supposedly I'll tell

2680
02:11:12,689 --> 02:11:10,959
you the truth they don't want to be back

2681
02:11:16,020 --> 02:11:12,699
because there were people in that room

2682
02:11:19,699 --> 02:11:16,030
that I'm not supposed to know about you

2683
02:11:24,179 --> 02:11:19,709
know John has some very high-level

2684
02:11:26,879 --> 02:11:24,189
friends and I'll tell you you want to

2685
02:11:29,279 --> 02:11:26,889
know what was a great moment with John

2686
02:11:31,949 --> 02:11:29,289
it was actually more recently than

2687
02:11:35,100 --> 02:11:31,959
you're realizing you know I went back we

2688
02:11:36,750 --> 02:11:35,110
went back like a year or I think maybe

2689
02:11:39,810 --> 02:11:36,760
two years ago I can't remember exactly

2690
02:11:41,219 --> 02:11:39,820
time just goes so fast but and did a

2691
02:11:44,189 --> 02:11:41,229
whole long interview with him it was

2692
02:11:46,290 --> 02:11:44,199
like three or four hours again recently

2693
02:11:48,479 --> 02:11:46,300
like you know like I said a year or two

2694
02:11:51,060 --> 02:11:48,489
ago and that's a great interview and in

2695
02:11:54,929 --> 02:11:51,070
the middle of that interview I had just

2696
02:11:57,089 --> 02:11:54,939
been to visit well one person I I'm not

2697
02:12:00,890 --> 02:11:57,099
naming because he's a high-level

2698
02:12:03,419 --> 02:12:00,900
scientist that I'm not supposed to be

2699
02:12:05,939 --> 02:12:03,429
disclosing things about and the other

2700
02:12:09,179 --> 02:12:05,949
one was Mark Richards in prison

2701
02:12:11,310 --> 02:12:09,189
so from there I drove to John to his

2702
02:12:13,339 --> 02:12:11,320
birthday and we did an interview I think

2703
02:12:16,500 --> 02:12:13,349
it was the day before the birthday and

2704
02:12:18,959 --> 02:12:16,510
he we couldn't stop him from talking he

2705
02:12:21,540 --> 02:12:18,969
was going on and on it was amazing

2706
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:21,550
but one thing I did was during that

2707
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:24,010
interview I told him what Mark said

2708
02:12:29,850 --> 02:12:27,010
about the spiders in Vietnam the spider

2709
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:29,860
beings that were the size of VW's

2710
02:12:34,500 --> 02:12:32,530
according to Mark Richards and John on

2711
02:12:36,270 --> 02:12:34,510
camera got that information for the

2712
02:12:39,449 --> 02:12:36,280
first time and you can see his

2713
02:12:46,589 --> 02:12:39,459
legitimate reaction and it's priceless

2714
02:12:49,319 --> 02:12:46,599
and I never explore whatever no he just

2715
02:12:52,020 --> 02:12:49,329
said right away he was like oh my god

2716
02:12:54,569 --> 02:12:52,030
this is it because his whole life you

2717
02:12:56,819 --> 02:12:54,579
know he was in the Vietnam War and all

2718
02:12:58,830 --> 02:12:56,829
of that he always wanted to know the

2719
02:13:01,429 --> 02:12:58,840
real reason behind the Vietnam War and

2720
02:13:04,799 --> 02:13:01,439
never bought the you know the party line

2721
02:13:07,319 --> 02:13:04,809
so when he heard that he just couldn't I

2722
02:13:10,709 --> 02:13:07,329
mean he just was totally ready for that

2723
02:13:11,709 --> 02:13:10,719
information and that was I think with

2724
02:13:13,450 --> 02:13:11,719
John of all the

2725
02:13:15,069 --> 02:13:13,460
times I've been with them that was the

2726
02:13:16,899 --> 02:13:15,079
most surprising to me because I really

2727
02:13:19,479 --> 02:13:16,909
didn't know he would take that on board

2728
02:13:21,879 --> 02:13:19,489
I just told him because I thought you

2729
02:13:25,330 --> 02:13:21,889
know it'd be fun to see his reaction was

2730
02:13:27,279 --> 02:13:25,340
there anybody that not to get off of

2731
02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:27,289
John will come back to this but is there

2732
02:13:32,859 --> 02:13:29,570
anybody over the years that you

2733
02:13:36,700 --> 02:13:32,869
interviewed and you were okay with but

2734
02:13:40,029 --> 02:13:36,710
then as time went by that you started to

2735
02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:40,039
maybe doubt the story or the level of

2736
02:13:45,069 --> 02:13:41,840
trust went away and maybe you didn't

2737
02:13:50,979 --> 02:13:45,079
interview them again bill Ryan no just

2738
02:13:54,459 --> 02:13:50,989
kidding I mean you know no I mean

2739
02:13:57,939 --> 02:13:54,469
seriously I love Bill you know we may

2740
02:14:01,989 --> 02:13:57,949
have some issues but nonetheless he was

2741
02:14:05,469 --> 02:14:01,999
a very good partner in Camelot you know

2742
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:05,479
as far as that went but I'm talking

2743
02:14:11,049 --> 02:14:08,210
about whistleblowers that I have through

2744
02:14:15,069 --> 02:14:11,059
the years thought were a bit more

2745
02:14:18,459 --> 02:14:15,079
legitimate than they are God that's a

2746
02:14:21,430 --> 02:14:18,469
really hard one you know it'd be easier

2747
02:14:23,049 --> 02:14:21,440
if you kind of rolled off a certain list

2748
02:14:25,180 --> 02:14:23,059
because you got to remember that you

2749
02:14:26,410 --> 02:14:25,190
know I mean and you've been doing this

2750
02:14:29,319 --> 02:14:26,420
now I think you've done even more

2751
02:14:31,689 --> 02:14:29,329
interviews than I have maybe I don't

2752
02:14:36,279 --> 02:14:31,699
know you know it's really hard I don't I

2753
02:14:38,729 --> 02:14:36,289
have to say by and large that that's not

2754
02:14:42,100 --> 02:14:38,739
the case that most of the people that I

2755
02:14:44,589 --> 02:14:42,110
evaluated at the time did the interview

2756
02:14:46,509 --> 02:14:44,599
had the sense of how much they were

2757
02:14:48,609 --> 02:14:46,519
telling the truth and how much falsity

2758
02:14:50,529 --> 02:14:48,619
was in there because you know bottom

2759
02:14:52,029 --> 02:14:50,539
line is people don't realize is that

2760
02:14:55,419 --> 02:14:52,039
first of all I don't believe everything

2761
02:14:57,430 --> 02:14:55,429
I'm told and second of all people do not

2762
02:15:00,189 --> 02:14:57,440
tell the whole truth and nothing but the

2763
02:15:02,319 --> 02:15:00,199
truth they tell you what they can tell

2764
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:02,329
you without getting killed without

2765
02:15:10,299 --> 02:15:06,130
having their family members killed etc

2766
02:15:12,819 --> 02:15:10,309
we did we did and I've said this before

2767
02:15:17,259 --> 02:15:12,829
but we did an interview with Nick I

2768
02:15:21,810 --> 02:15:17,269
think it's Nick Pope the British guy who

2769
02:15:24,860 --> 02:15:21,820
was head of the desk in Britain or

2770
02:15:27,620 --> 02:15:24,870
Ministry of Defence right

2771
02:15:30,770 --> 02:15:27,630
and we shelved it we never published it

2772
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:30,780
and he got mad at us over that

2773
02:15:35,270 --> 02:15:33,330
why did you shelve it never forgot

2774
02:15:37,340 --> 02:15:35,280
forgave us for that because we couldn't

2775
02:15:39,980 --> 02:15:37,350
get the guy to leave the party line for

2776
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:39,990
five seconds during that interview so

2777
02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:42,800
the whole thing was nothing but you know

2778
02:15:49,190 --> 02:15:45,570
politically correct nonsense

2779
02:15:53,330 --> 02:15:49,200
so sad to say you know he was you know

2780
02:15:56,420 --> 02:15:53,340
he's an apologist for them now he's come

2781
02:15:59,780 --> 02:15:56,430
out recently I hear tell it trying to

2782
02:16:01,610 --> 02:15:59,790
tell a little bit more truth the one

2783
02:16:03,770 --> 02:16:01,620
thing that was interesting about him is

2784
02:16:05,780 --> 02:16:03,780
that he did write some sci-fi books that

2785
02:16:08,450 --> 02:16:05,790
were closer to the truth but you could

2786
02:16:12,380 --> 02:16:08,460
never get him on camera - you know even

2787
02:16:13,970 --> 02:16:12,390
come close to sort of dropping some some

2788
02:16:16,220 --> 02:16:13,980
truth here and there I mean the whole

2789
02:16:18,290 --> 02:16:16,230
thing was just bollocks so we you know

2790
02:16:22,250 --> 02:16:18,300
we just turned to each other and just

2791
02:16:24,830 --> 02:16:22,260
said that was a waste you said you said

2792
02:16:27,260 --> 02:16:24,840
earlier and I wrote this down and I want

2793
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:27,270
to get back to it you said earlier that

2794
02:16:34,720 --> 02:16:30,650
you know where the bodies are buried

2795
02:16:38,030 --> 02:16:34,730
right now yeah are you suggesting that

2796
02:16:40,669 --> 02:16:38,040
there is stuff out there that isn't even

2797
02:16:44,300 --> 02:16:40,679
on Project Camelot that you you can't

2798
02:16:47,150 --> 02:16:44,310
talk about is that you know we we've

2799
02:16:50,260 --> 02:16:47,160
been threatened we investigated a case

2800
02:16:54,709 --> 02:16:50,270
let me see how far I can go on this one

2801
02:16:58,040 --> 02:16:54,719
we invested a cake gated a case that you

2802
02:17:00,379 --> 02:16:58,050
know we flew out it took us airfare and

2803
02:17:02,990 --> 02:17:00,389
all kinds of stuff and basically we

2804
02:17:07,220 --> 02:17:03,000
found out that if we said anything we

2805
02:17:08,900 --> 02:17:07,230
were told that these very nice people

2806
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:08,910
that actually went about which had

2807
02:17:15,140 --> 02:17:11,040
become a friend that they and their

2808
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:15,150
families would not survive so we had to

2809
02:17:24,100 --> 02:17:18,570
just shut up about it let me see I think

2810
02:17:29,839 --> 02:17:27,890
yes because ultimately it had to do with

2811
02:17:31,910 --> 02:17:29,849
the release of information that was

2812
02:17:34,640 --> 02:17:31,920
telling the real truth about some of the

2813
02:17:36,740 --> 02:17:34,650
things that went on during Roswell but

2814
02:17:38,780 --> 02:17:36,750
it actually had to do with James Jesus

2815
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:38,790
Angleton

2816
02:17:50,990 --> 02:17:42,330
and and he knew where the bodies were

2817
02:17:57,049 --> 02:17:51,000
buried and literally yeah right but that

2818
02:18:00,019 --> 02:17:57,059
was over 70 years ago yeah well yeah but

2819
02:18:02,059 --> 02:18:00,029
you know this is you know it is isn't

2820
02:18:04,820 --> 02:18:02,069
the seat you know this world by secrecy

2821
02:18:06,259 --> 02:18:04,830
funny they they have certain areas what

2822
02:18:08,719 --> 02:18:06,269
they don't want the real truth to come

2823
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:08,729
out right you know things like well I

2824
02:18:13,910 --> 02:18:11,250
mean it's out there it's out there that

2825
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:13,920
Hitler didn't die it's out there that he

2826
02:18:18,950 --> 02:18:16,170
went down to you know that the Nazis are

2827
02:18:20,870 --> 02:18:18,960
in Antarctica it's out there that you

2828
02:18:23,089 --> 02:18:20,880
know that Pearl Harbor that they knew

2829
02:18:25,009 --> 02:18:23,099
ahead of time and that that Churchill

2830
02:18:26,629 --> 02:18:25,019
warned him and that they knew they were

2831
02:18:27,169 --> 02:18:26,639
there was going to happen and then giant

2832
02:18:29,719 --> 02:18:27,179
Japanese

2833
02:18:32,150 --> 02:18:29,729
you know attacked and they let him kill

2834
02:18:35,389 --> 02:18:32,160
Americans I mean you know this stuff is

2835
02:18:38,179 --> 02:18:35,399
out there but yeah the people that

2836
02:18:40,429 --> 02:18:38,189
really know it know it know it you know

2837
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:40,439
what I'm saying I'll tell you Mark

2838
02:18:43,549 --> 02:18:42,210
Richards is in prison because he knows

2839
02:18:47,330 --> 02:18:43,559
where the bodies are buried

2840
02:18:50,809 --> 02:18:47,340
he knows so much it's ridiculous well

2841
02:18:53,570 --> 02:18:50,819
and I guess what I'm referring to is are

2842
02:18:55,580 --> 02:18:53,580
you ever going to reveal where the

2843
02:18:57,559 --> 02:18:55,590
bodies are buried not necessarily where

2844
02:19:00,379 --> 02:18:57,569
the bodies are buried but some of this

2845
02:19:02,389 --> 02:19:00,389
information that you just you know can't

2846
02:19:06,580 --> 02:19:02,399
talk about for whatever those reasons

2847
02:19:10,580 --> 02:19:06,590
are very little I'll tell you because I

2848
02:19:14,179 --> 02:19:10,590
even the way I release information is

2849
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:14,189
kind of creative sometimes I I do it for

2850
02:19:18,440 --> 02:19:16,170
example I do this yearly conference in

2851
02:19:20,809 --> 02:19:18,450
England and if you come in person they

2852
02:19:25,450 --> 02:19:20,819
only allow what do we have a hundred and

2853
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:25,460
twelve or 115 seats it's very intimate I

2854
02:19:31,730 --> 02:19:28,800
say things in there that don't go on to

2855
02:19:33,019 --> 02:19:31,740
the film necessarily that people get

2856
02:19:36,379 --> 02:19:33,029
told

2857
02:19:40,820 --> 02:19:36,389
I alluded to stuff if you listen to me

2858
02:19:44,750 --> 02:19:40,830
if you ever hear me speak publicly I I

2859
02:19:47,870 --> 02:19:44,760
say things I drop hints about things but

2860
02:19:50,599 --> 02:19:47,880
by and large you know everything almost

2861
02:19:52,400 --> 02:19:50,609
everything we've ever been told is out

2862
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:52,410
there in one form or fashion

2863
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:55,200
or it's even come out somewhere else and

2864
02:20:00,560 --> 02:19:57,210
I just know it's true that kind of thing

2865
02:20:02,660 --> 02:20:00,570
you know so I wouldn't say that it's it

2866
02:20:04,940 --> 02:20:02,670
that you know that we're sitting on a

2867
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:04,950
bunch of special knowledge of any kind

2868
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:08,130
you know because I'm again my first this

2869
02:20:14,690 --> 02:20:11,330
is why you know they don't recruit me

2870
02:20:16,820 --> 02:20:14,700
because I I'm working for the people

2871
02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:16,830
first and foremost so I'm going to tell

2872
02:20:24,620 --> 02:20:21,600
them you know it you know you you

2873
02:20:26,270 --> 02:20:24,630
basically have to kill me you know end

2874
02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:26,280
of the day to shut me up

2875
02:20:31,219 --> 02:20:28,250
and how do you and let's kind of wrap

2876
02:20:35,480 --> 02:20:31,229
wrap with this since we're talking about

2877
02:20:38,929 --> 02:20:35,490
you know influencing and and that in

2878
02:20:41,210 --> 02:20:38,939
that context because you do have a very

2879
02:20:47,810 --> 02:20:41,220
large audience out there but then what

2880
02:20:50,960 --> 02:20:47,820
comes with that critics you know you all

2881
02:20:52,820 --> 02:20:50,970
of us have to develop techniques and

2882
02:20:56,480 --> 02:20:52,830
certain amount of thick skin to deal

2883
02:21:02,240 --> 02:20:56,490
with it how do you deal with it and and

2884
02:21:04,550 --> 02:21:02,250
what's the best way to combat well any

2885
02:21:06,290 --> 02:21:04,560
public person has to deal with these

2886
02:21:08,600 --> 02:21:06,300
kinds of things you know you have to

2887
02:21:10,670 --> 02:21:08,610
deal with attacks you have to deal with

2888
02:21:15,080 --> 02:21:10,680
people who try to find out where you

2889
02:21:18,139 --> 02:21:15,090
live and want to you know to you know

2890
02:21:19,700 --> 02:21:18,149
track you and all of this you have to

2891
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:19,710
deal I have to deal if you tell the

2892
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:21,120
truth you have to deal with the attacks

2893
02:21:30,050 --> 02:21:23,010
from the powers-that-be which they do

2894
02:21:32,570 --> 02:21:30,060
with you know a lot of enthusiasm I you

2895
02:21:34,730 --> 02:21:32,580
know the people on the internet that

2896
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:34,740
when a badmouth me it's in you know it's

2897
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:36,810
interesting because since the beginning

2898
02:21:43,370 --> 02:21:39,450
of Camelot I was the one they they light

2899
02:21:46,639 --> 02:21:43,380
love to hate so to speak and at first

2900
02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:46,649
that was actually kind of off-putting

2901
02:21:53,210 --> 02:21:50,450
and surprising but then I sort of got it

2902
02:21:55,490 --> 02:21:53,220
you know the bottom line is actually

2903
02:21:58,520 --> 02:21:55,500
something that was true in my life not

2904
02:22:01,880 --> 02:21:58,530
you know before I ever got went public

2905
02:22:05,810 --> 02:22:01,890
is a sense of knowing that people hate

2906
02:22:07,710 --> 02:22:05,820
they hate the fact that I actually talk

2907
02:22:11,250 --> 02:22:07,720
like I know

2908
02:22:13,530 --> 02:22:11,260
and you know I am honestly if I know

2909
02:22:16,110 --> 02:22:13,540
something I'm gonna say it and I believe

2910
02:22:18,930 --> 02:22:16,120
humans do no I don't believe we just

2911
02:22:21,390 --> 02:22:18,940
believe I don't believe we just think or

2912
02:22:24,390 --> 02:22:21,400
we gather information and then maybe we

2913
02:22:26,340 --> 02:22:24,400
kind of know something and I don't I

2914
02:22:29,160 --> 02:22:26,350
also don't believe in authorities I

2915
02:22:31,230 --> 02:22:29,170
don't believe in doctors or any of those

2916
02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:31,240
kinds of people I mean as far as I'm

2917
02:22:36,690 --> 02:22:32,920
concerned they're just like anybody else

2918
02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:36,700
and a lot of them are full of it so you

2919
02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:39,970
know because my authority doesn't come

2920
02:22:47,670 --> 02:22:44,800
from other humans and because I actually

2921
02:22:49,710 --> 02:22:47,680
when I know something I you know I've

2922
02:22:51,240 --> 02:22:49,720
done this experimental thing I told you

2923
02:22:54,690 --> 02:22:51,250
about in the early part of the interview

2924
02:22:57,870 --> 02:22:54,700
where I kind of have tested myself to

2925
02:23:03,000 --> 02:22:57,880
see does it prove to be correct and I'm

2926
02:23:05,820 --> 02:23:03,010
also not I'm not married to what do you

2927
02:23:09,170 --> 02:23:05,830
want to call this proof what people call

2928
02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:09,180
proof what people call proof is nonsense

2929
02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:11,680
nine times out of ten what it's a

2930
02:23:17,610 --> 02:23:14,350
written document you can fake a like

2931
02:23:20,370 --> 02:23:17,620
Obama's birth certificate by the way you

2932
02:23:23,070 --> 02:23:20,380
know it's it's a photograph you can fake

2933
02:23:27,210 --> 02:23:23,080
it's a testimony that can be faked

2934
02:23:29,640 --> 02:23:27,220
it's a you know so I decided a long time

2935
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:29,650
ago it's kind of like Einstein says the

2936
02:23:34,980 --> 02:23:31,450
real measure of intelligence is

2937
02:23:39,060 --> 02:23:34,990
imagination to me imagination is key

2938
02:23:42,390 --> 02:23:39,070
it's King consciousness is king so I'm

2939
02:23:45,440 --> 02:23:42,400
not worried about you know the things

2940
02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:45,450
that people pull out of you know of

2941
02:23:50,880 --> 02:23:48,490
conventional reality and try to deal

2942
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:50,890
with these things that are so secret and

2943
02:23:56,220 --> 02:23:54,490
so above the norm I mean there's a

2944
02:23:59,400 --> 02:23:56,230
certain person out there who thinks

2945
02:24:01,110 --> 02:23:59,410
they're going to out a certain witness

2946
02:24:02,850 --> 02:24:01,120
of mine and I'm not going to give him

2947
02:24:06,511 --> 02:24:02,860
any pull up publicity here but I will

2948
02:24:08,970 --> 02:24:06,521
say that it's shocking how naive this

2949
02:24:12,050 --> 02:24:08,980
person's brain is and it's shocking how

2950
02:24:15,810 --> 02:24:12,060
they don't they actually deal in

2951
02:24:19,710 --> 02:24:15,820
consensus reality but you cannot deal

2952
02:24:21,301 --> 02:24:19,720
with the UFO you know alien off-planet

2953
02:24:27,180 --> 02:24:21,311
world

2954
02:24:30,990 --> 02:24:27,190
of what it is to be human and use

2955
02:24:34,170 --> 02:24:31,000
conventional reality I mean this is a

2956
02:24:37,620 --> 02:24:34,180
bogus you you know even physicists will

2957
02:24:39,570 --> 02:24:37,630
tell you whatever is solid in front of

2958
02:24:42,270 --> 02:24:39,580
you whether it's a wall or a table it's

2959
02:24:44,250 --> 02:24:42,280
not really solid right and if you match

2960
02:24:46,620 --> 02:24:44,260
the vibration like men who stare at

2961
02:24:49,230 --> 02:24:46,630
goats you can walk through a I'm

2962
02:24:51,841 --> 02:24:49,240
sorry oh you can walk through a freaking

2963
02:24:55,051 --> 02:24:51,851
wall yeah I mean you know I'm sorry I'm

2964
02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:55,061
passionate but you know this is the this

2965
02:24:59,220 --> 02:24:57,130
is the reality that we live in people

2966
02:25:00,990 --> 02:24:59,230
like to think it's different people like

2967
02:25:02,341 --> 02:25:01,000
to think they get up every day they go

2968
02:25:03,960 --> 02:25:02,351
to work and they come home and they

2969
02:25:05,580 --> 02:25:03,970
watch TV and go to bed that's their

2970
02:25:07,381 --> 02:25:05,590
lives right right I mean they think

2971
02:25:11,430 --> 02:25:07,391
that's life they think watching football

2972
02:25:15,870 --> 02:25:11,440
is life it's not okay it's way more

2973
02:25:18,690 --> 02:25:15,880
complex than that and we are way way way

2974
02:25:22,591 --> 02:25:18,700
more in complex than that and as far as

2975
02:25:25,051 --> 02:25:22,601
I'm concerned we can beat AI and I know

2976
02:25:27,091 --> 02:25:25,061
that people are fond of you know they're

2977
02:25:28,591 --> 02:25:27,101
they're always intimidated by stuff they

2978
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:28,601
always they've been taught it's a

2979
02:25:34,470 --> 02:25:30,970
programming it's a programming to think

2980
02:25:36,930 --> 02:25:34,480
that and everyone is above you who has a

2981
02:25:38,910 --> 02:25:36,940
college degree or has whatever kind of

2982
02:25:41,250 --> 02:25:38,920
degrees are or whatever medical or this

2983
02:25:43,470 --> 02:25:41,260
or that and the bottom line is they're

2984
02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:43,480
just programmed and the bottom line is

2985
02:25:50,011 --> 02:25:46,570
that if you go off planet it doesn't

2986
02:25:52,410 --> 02:25:50,021
even apply and you cannot deal with off

2987
02:25:54,390 --> 02:25:52,420
planet intelligences using the same

2988
02:25:56,700 --> 02:25:54,400
paradigm that you have here on earth

2989
02:25:59,640 --> 02:25:56,710
it doesn't work it's never gonna work

2990
02:26:02,640 --> 02:25:59,650
you know we're far beyond that and we

2991
02:26:05,551 --> 02:26:02,650
come from out there as well and when you

2992
02:26:08,730 --> 02:26:05,561
think like I think then you know working

2993
02:26:11,190 --> 02:26:08,740
in conventional reality is it's beyond

2994
02:26:14,970 --> 02:26:11,200
stupid you know it's it's pathetic

2995
02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:14,980
it's what it is and so you know yeah

2996
02:26:18,810 --> 02:26:17,290
people get pissed the question was you

2997
02:26:22,530 --> 02:26:18,820
know why don't why do people get pissed

2998
02:26:24,690 --> 02:26:22,540
at me and I them I trigger them to

2999
02:26:27,091 --> 02:26:24,700
actually look at themselves and realize

3000
02:26:29,341 --> 02:26:27,101
that no one I don't care if it's an

3001
02:26:31,140 --> 02:26:29,351
alien I don't care you know I don't care

3002
02:26:32,940 --> 02:26:31,150
if somebody walks in here and considers

3003
02:26:34,230 --> 02:26:32,950
themselves God and people write to me

3004
02:26:36,330 --> 02:26:34,240
all the time tell me there

3005
02:26:39,900 --> 02:26:36,340
God or Jesus of the devil or whatever

3006
02:26:43,290 --> 02:26:39,910
you know people have all kinds of ideas

3007
02:26:45,719 --> 02:26:43,300
but the bottom line is that you can only

3008
02:26:48,719 --> 02:26:45,729
know in your soul of souls you know what

3009
02:26:52,550 --> 02:26:48,729
I mean the truth and once you realize it

3010
02:26:54,780 --> 02:26:52,560
once it hits you you know that's it

3011
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:54,790
what can I tell you I think you have to

3012
02:26:59,250 --> 02:26:57,040
keep an open mind from then on I think

3013
02:27:00,480 --> 02:26:59,260
you have to collect continue collecting

3014
02:27:03,900 --> 02:27:00,490
the evidence even though you've reached

3015
02:27:06,120 --> 02:27:03,910
a good conclusion you know but the

3016
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:06,130
bottom line is that we are way more than

3017
02:27:12,300 --> 02:27:08,650
this conventional reality gives us

3018
02:27:14,719 --> 02:27:12,310
credit for and I'm about that that's

3019
02:27:18,270 --> 02:27:14,729
that interests me you just triggered me

3020
02:27:20,070 --> 02:27:18,280
so you're gonna stay on to do some

3021
02:27:21,900 --> 02:27:20,080
overtime so you just stay right there

3022
02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:21,910
there's no way we're gonna end right now

3023
02:27:26,430 --> 02:27:24,610
it can't happen that way Kerry that's it

3024
02:27:28,650 --> 02:27:26,440
so just stay right there we'll uh we'll

3025
02:27:30,870 --> 02:27:28,660
continue this conversation I'm watching

3026
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:30,880
Twitter it's on fire thank you for that

3027
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:33,010
and we'll be right back Kerry Cassidy

3028
02:27:36,540 --> 02:27:35,290
Project Camelot we're gonna do some

3029
02:28:05,250 --> 02:27:36,550
overtime stay with us

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Jimmy Church Jimmy Church radio.com this

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Camelot doing some overtime so you know

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what that means I'm gonna go right there

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I want my questions answered now I'm

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gonna go a little direct here in a few

3122
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things one Kerry is that when we talk

3123
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about disclosure and and I interface

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with an awful lot of people you were

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talking about conferences and I do a lot

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of public speaking I do a lot of

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questioning and what I what I have found

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out is that disclosure is different to

3129
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everybody but one thing that I can

3130
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definitely deduce is that when somebody

3131
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says including myself I don't need

3132
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disclosure I've seen what I've seen I've

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got my own stuff I'm you know I don't

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need it and then I will get the booze

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whatever it disclosed you to everybody

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in a general concept is the president

3137
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stepping up on live television

3138
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announcing that we are not alone right

3139
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that and until that happens there is no

3140
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disclosure for you what's the definition

3141
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the definition of disclosure what would

3142
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you accept as true disclosure well like

3143
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I say I think we're disclosure so we're

3144
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disclosing to each other every day we're

3145
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discovering the truth about what's

3146
02:33:57,570 --> 02:33:54,940
really been going on all around us and

3147
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you know the consoled controllers and

3148
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the alien contingent etc is all part of

3149
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that but sure it's nice to have

3150
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so-called members of government let's

3151
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see Paul Hellyer he was a pretty high up

3152
02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:14,200
official but what that's not good enough

3153
02:34:21,030 --> 02:34:17,650
for people you know I mean it's

3154
02:34:24,390 --> 02:34:21,040
interesting I I think even who was it

3155
02:34:28,530 --> 02:34:24,400
was it well Reagan certainly hinted at

3156
02:34:30,750 --> 02:34:28,540
it or more than hinted at it Ben rich

3157
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said you know we have the technology to

3158
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take e.t home and he said a lot of other

3159
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things as well he really came as close

3160
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as you can fricking come and be someone

3161
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who was in the know and in a piss

3162
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to be in the know you know I worked wait

3163
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I worked for JPL Jet Propulsion lab in

3164
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the communications area as a consultant

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contractor so I was working around

3166
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scientists and engineers and all of that

3167
02:35:09,370 --> 02:35:04,220
that sent the you know the Rovers to

3168
02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:09,380
Mars and such and other people so you

3169
02:35:15,670 --> 02:35:13,130
know I've had my disclosure I've had I

3170
02:35:18,341 --> 02:35:15,680
mean I've had been face to face with the

3171
02:35:23,830 --> 02:35:18,351
best you know you might say the best and

3172
02:35:25,210 --> 02:35:23,840
the brightest and that is priceless I've

3173
02:35:28,360 --> 02:35:25,220
also been approached

3174
02:35:33,190 --> 02:35:28,370
you know quietly by certain others who

3175
02:35:37,960 --> 02:35:33,200
never went on camera etc etc and so on

3176
02:35:40,480 --> 02:35:37,970
so all I can tell you is you know a

3177
02:35:42,761 --> 02:35:40,490
president is never gonna be a big while

3178
02:35:46,330 --> 02:35:42,771
for me because the president is a hired

3179
02:35:48,490 --> 02:35:46,340
hand first of all and someone like Bobby

3180
02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:48,500
Ray Inman now that's another matter

3181
02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:50,720
sure I'd love to you know sit and have

3182
02:35:57,700 --> 02:35:53,930
coffee with him for a few hours because

3183
02:35:59,500 --> 02:35:57,710
he really knows you know the real the

3184
02:36:01,330 --> 02:35:59,510
people that really know these are the

3185
02:36:03,460 --> 02:36:01,340
people that I respect and the people

3186
02:36:05,950 --> 02:36:03,470
that have been dealing with this reality

3187
02:36:06,400 --> 02:36:05,960
you know who go to work and deal with it

3188
02:36:10,330 --> 02:36:06,410
every day

3189
02:36:14,761 --> 02:36:10,340
a president you know I think Trump is is

3190
02:36:18,190 --> 02:36:14,771
read in enough to know quite a bit I

3191
02:36:20,350 --> 02:36:18,200
what can I tell you I I don't see it

3192
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:20,360
like other people see it I do understand

3193
02:36:24,761 --> 02:36:22,730
that but at the same time right you know

3194
02:36:28,390 --> 02:36:24,771
I do think that we're moving towards

3195
02:36:30,610 --> 02:36:28,400
that look I also have had dreams of the

3196
02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:30,620
future now if one of my dreams comes

3197
02:36:36,040 --> 02:36:34,010
true disclosure and quite the way that

3198
02:36:39,761 --> 02:36:36,050
people would like to see it is not going

3199
02:36:41,950 --> 02:36:39,771
to happen for quite a while I can say

3200
02:36:44,080 --> 02:36:41,960
that you know we are going to be we are

3201
02:36:47,650 --> 02:36:44,090
fighting wars with aliens right now

3202
02:36:49,810 --> 02:36:47,660
soldiers are in Iraq and Iran are

3203
02:36:51,341 --> 02:36:49,820
dealing with Reptoids that are coming up

3204
02:36:54,280 --> 02:36:51,351
from underground and interdimensional

3205
02:36:55,030 --> 02:36:54,290
they are fighting them they don't

3206
02:36:57,160 --> 02:36:55,040
remember

3207
02:36:59,860 --> 02:36:57,170
they are having their minds wiped they

3208
02:37:03,160 --> 02:36:59,870
are being fighting wars on Mars and on

3209
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:03,170
the moon and killing beings you know and

3210
02:37:09,250 --> 02:37:06,290
you know Randy Cramer I mean he'll tell

3211
02:37:11,650 --> 02:37:09,260
you I mean these people know what's real

3212
02:37:12,940 --> 02:37:11,660
these are the people that I respect the

3213
02:37:15,670 --> 02:37:12,950
people that have been in the trenches

3214
02:37:18,160 --> 02:37:15,680
fighting the war on our behalf

3215
02:37:21,340 --> 02:37:18,170
fighting the good fight the ones who

3216
02:37:24,250 --> 02:37:21,350
really know the truth you know the ones

3217
02:37:28,750 --> 02:37:24,260
like Bill Cooper yes bill Cooper and

3218
02:37:31,300 --> 02:37:28,760
Phil Schneider you know who disclosed

3219
02:37:33,160 --> 02:37:31,310
who were in the trenches trenches and

3220
02:37:35,410 --> 02:37:33,170
then came out and disclosed the ones

3221
02:37:38,200 --> 02:37:35,420
like Bob Dean that did the best they

3222
02:37:40,600 --> 02:37:38,210
could to say as much as they could and

3223
02:37:43,390 --> 02:37:40,610
still keep their family alive Clifford

3224
02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:43,400
stone I mean these are to me these are

3225
02:37:49,540 --> 02:37:47,210
heroes okay yeah the president coming

3226
02:37:53,800 --> 02:37:49,550
out and disclosing can't hold a candle

3227
02:37:56,920 --> 02:37:53,810
to those people about I don't even know

3228
02:37:59,650 --> 02:37:56,930
now maybe six months or a year ago I

3229
02:38:02,830 --> 02:37:59,660
opened wines right Thursday night open

3230
02:38:06,400 --> 02:38:02,840
lines and Richard Doty calls in to fade

3231
02:38:08,620 --> 02:38:06,410
to black yes and and you laugh and that

3232
02:38:13,420 --> 02:38:08,630
set and I'm with you on that and I never

3233
02:38:15,761 --> 02:38:13,430
wanted to interview Doty because of my

3234
02:38:17,710 --> 02:38:15,771
pent-up anger but but that's neither

3235
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:17,720
here nor there but he so he calls it and

3236
02:38:26,011 --> 02:38:21,370
he said one thing in that interview that

3237
02:38:33,840 --> 02:38:26,021
sticks to me and he said that when he

3238
02:38:40,330 --> 02:38:35,670
[Music]

3239
02:38:43,180 --> 02:38:40,340
informants speakers on the circuit that

3240
02:38:47,860 --> 02:38:43,190
are still on the circuit today and he

3241
02:38:50,740 --> 02:38:47,870
knows that they are working with an

3242
02:38:53,740 --> 02:38:50,750
agency and now I didn't want to know the

3243
02:38:56,560 --> 02:38:53,750
names I did I just didn't want to open

3244
02:38:59,470 --> 02:38:56,570
up that door and we did not but coming

3245
02:39:01,090 --> 02:38:59,480
from Doty where we've got a little bit

3246
02:39:04,980 --> 02:39:01,100
of a paradox here right we've got a

3247
02:39:06,780 --> 02:39:04,990
conundrum do we believe Doty or is this

3248
02:39:08,551 --> 02:39:06,790
disinfo

3249
02:39:13,711 --> 02:39:08,561
what do you think about that statement

3250
02:39:14,820 --> 02:39:13,721
do you think that there are you sure you

3251
02:39:19,110 --> 02:39:14,830
don't want to think about that for a

3252
02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:19,120
second no because I know I mean I I know

3253
02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:22,660
I'm what can I tell you yes there are

3254
02:39:31,411 --> 02:39:28,570
people that are respected who are still

3255
02:39:34,140 --> 02:39:31,421
working you know you I I think people

3256
02:39:36,331 --> 02:39:34,150
don't understand the game very well I

3257
02:39:42,001 --> 02:39:36,341
think you have to understand that people

3258
02:39:44,791 --> 02:39:42,011
do have to go on to teams I am still an

3259
02:39:47,430 --> 02:39:44,801
oddity I can tell you that in a hidden

3260
02:39:49,501 --> 02:39:47,440
way I'm probably part of some team that

3261
02:39:52,350 --> 02:39:49,511
I don't really know what it is exactly

3262
02:39:55,470 --> 02:39:52,360
of white hats if you want to call it

3263
02:39:58,261 --> 02:39:55,480
that that protect me people that you

3264
02:40:00,121 --> 02:39:58,271
know when all the other teams say killer

3265
02:40:01,770 --> 02:40:00,131
they say wait a minute

3266
02:40:04,621 --> 02:40:01,780
if you killer we're gonna kill one of

3267
02:40:06,621 --> 02:40:04,631
yours and so it's a moot deal you can't

3268
02:40:09,720 --> 02:40:06,631
do anything

3269
02:40:12,631 --> 02:40:09,730
people have to save their own lives and

3270
02:40:15,150 --> 02:40:12,641
so I don't judge too harshly I do

3271
02:40:17,551 --> 02:40:15,160
understand that people are also they

3272
02:40:19,711 --> 02:40:17,561
considers themselves you know Patriots

3273
02:40:21,810 --> 02:40:19,721
for the cause and so on I mean you know

3274
02:40:23,911 --> 02:40:21,820
build more you mentioned Bill Moore he

3275
02:40:26,131 --> 02:40:23,921
he was a liar you know and he even came

3276
02:40:27,150 --> 02:40:26,141
out and said he was putting out disinfo

3277
02:40:30,570 --> 02:40:27,160
mm-hm

3278
02:40:33,091 --> 02:40:30,580
I yes I I don't know all the players

3279
02:40:35,970 --> 02:40:33,101
that are playing both sides and that of

3280
02:40:39,331 --> 02:40:35,980
that are actually in some cases working

3281
02:40:42,690 --> 02:40:39,341
very very diligently to disinfo people

3282
02:40:46,770 --> 02:40:42,700
but I I know enough of them and I know

3283
02:40:51,331 --> 02:40:46,780
who know who Dodi knows to some degree

3284
02:40:54,600 --> 02:40:51,341
and I mean Dodi planted a you know a

3285
02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:54,610
listening device or had it done when we

3286
02:41:00,180 --> 02:40:58,000
were in New Mexico and we went to we

3287
02:41:06,150 --> 02:41:00,190
drove over to a certain part of Arizona

3288
02:41:07,470 --> 02:41:06,160
to to visit a member of a military

3289
02:41:10,791 --> 02:41:07,480
member of the DIA

3290
02:41:14,091 --> 02:41:10,801
who was part of the serpo disclosures

3291
02:41:17,011 --> 02:41:14,101
you know he they put a device on our car

3292
02:41:20,040 --> 02:41:17,021
to track us so that the people were

3293
02:41:21,630 --> 02:41:20,050
standing in their yard when we drove up

3294
02:41:23,580 --> 02:41:21,640
how come we knew there was a tracker on

3295
02:41:31,500 --> 02:41:23,590
her I remember you telling me about that

3296
02:41:34,290 --> 02:41:31,510
right right he also said that yes that I

3297
02:41:36,420 --> 02:41:34,300
that they are on the circuit and and I

3298
02:41:38,130 --> 02:41:36,430
would know who they were now again I

3299
02:41:40,710 --> 02:41:38,140
don't I don't want to know the names I

3300
02:41:44,070 --> 02:41:40,720
just found it interesting that he would

3301
02:41:46,380 --> 02:41:44,080
say something like that and I don't know

3302
02:41:50,040 --> 02:41:46,390
when it comes with a guy like Dodi you

3303
02:41:53,190 --> 02:41:50,050
know you've got to you know what he is a

3304
02:41:56,490 --> 02:41:53,200
disempower I right so is it true or is

3305
02:41:58,050 --> 02:41:56,500
it not and that's part of the fun with

3306
02:42:00,270 --> 02:41:58,060
this where we're always trying to chase

3307
02:42:03,660 --> 02:42:00,280
the truth chase the truth and you've got

3308
02:42:04,469 --> 02:42:03,670
to have a filter on all the time like a

3309
02:42:06,719 --> 02:42:04,479
strainer

3310
02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:06,729
you know like I'm straining pasta and

3311
02:42:13,590 --> 02:42:11,050
that's that's what I feel fair enough

3312
02:42:16,230 --> 02:42:13,600
and you know you do have to I mean maybe

3313
02:42:18,510 --> 02:42:16,240
take a take it with a grain of salt as

3314
02:42:23,130 --> 02:42:18,520
they say I think you need to keep a

3315
02:42:26,700 --> 02:42:23,140
balance in your mind but I also think

3316
02:42:28,139 --> 02:42:26,710
that if you you know what what I was

3317
02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:28,149
thinking about during the break is the

3318
02:42:35,240 --> 02:42:30,880
idea that you know let's say you have

3319
02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:35,250
two choices and one is really

3320
02:42:42,200 --> 02:42:39,010
fantastical and one is really like dull

3321
02:42:46,830 --> 02:42:42,210
and boring now which do you choose

3322
02:42:49,080 --> 02:42:46,840
to me it's like more interesting to to

3323
02:42:51,960 --> 02:42:49,090
allow life to be as interesting as it

3324
02:42:54,570 --> 02:42:51,970
wants to be to allow reality to be as

3325
02:42:57,059 --> 02:42:54,580
interesting as it wants to be and you

3326
02:42:59,940 --> 02:42:57,069
know I always say to people why do you

3327
02:43:03,270 --> 02:42:59,950
want to limit the imagination of God for

3328
02:43:06,240 --> 02:43:03,280
example you know think about that there

3329
02:43:10,610 --> 02:43:06,250
is no limit there for anything you can

3330
02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:10,620
imagine could be done could happen could

3331
02:43:19,559 --> 02:43:16,450
exist you know and that's it I mean you

3332
02:43:21,660 --> 02:43:19,569
know there are no limits for God there

3333
02:43:25,139 --> 02:43:21,670
might be limits for you or I here in

3334
02:43:27,000 --> 02:43:25,149
this 3d world but the reality is you

3335
02:43:29,429 --> 02:43:27,010
know if you want to be so sort of

3336
02:43:31,440 --> 02:43:29,439
small-minded as to think the only thing

3337
02:43:33,719 --> 02:43:31,450
God ever thought of was to create a

3338
02:43:34,320 --> 02:43:33,729
human on this planet right with all the

3339
02:43:36,450 --> 02:43:34,330
bill

3340
02:43:39,210 --> 02:43:36,460
zillions of planets and stars and you

3341
02:43:40,890 --> 02:43:39,220
know what whatever else is out there you

3342
02:43:43,470 --> 02:43:40,900
know sorry

3343
02:43:46,440 --> 02:43:43,480
that's a really pathetic excuse for a

3344
02:43:48,660 --> 02:43:46,450
god if you ask me right you know so I

3345
02:43:51,810 --> 02:43:48,670
just think people need to widen their

3346
02:43:54,860 --> 02:43:51,820
minds they need to really understand

3347
02:43:59,040 --> 02:43:54,870
that reality is stranger than fiction

3348
02:44:02,160 --> 02:43:59,050
it's a fact it really is and if you if

3349
02:44:04,920 --> 02:44:02,170
you begin to do an investigation your

3350
02:44:07,200 --> 02:44:04,930
mind will be bent I mean anyone who's

3351
02:44:10,290 --> 02:44:07,210
gone down this investigative kind of

3352
02:44:13,680 --> 02:44:10,300
Road yourself included will know what

3353
02:44:16,530 --> 02:44:13,690
I'm talking about because I mean you

3354
02:44:19,470 --> 02:44:16,540
know I think I know a lot but you know I

3355
02:44:22,320 --> 02:44:19,480
didn't really think when Terry Lovelace

3356
02:44:25,261 --> 02:44:22,330
said he saw an a wall-sized aquarium

3357
02:44:28,080 --> 02:44:25,271
with what he thought were puppies in

3358
02:44:33,500 --> 02:44:28,090
this pink liquid which were in essence

3359
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:33,510
you know hybrid human to be future human

3360
02:44:39,960 --> 02:44:36,250
hybrid whatever kind of things you know

3361
02:44:42,390 --> 02:44:39,970
I mean that's kind of mind-boggling

3362
02:44:46,140 --> 02:44:42,400
don't you think now yeah the first time

3363
02:44:50,280 --> 02:44:46,150
he the first time the first time that he

3364
02:44:54,290 --> 02:44:50,290
told me that story I was floored and

3365
02:44:57,090 --> 02:44:54,300
it's only because he comes from a legal

3366
02:44:59,970 --> 02:44:57,100
mindset he's a trained professional and

3367
02:45:01,530 --> 02:44:59,980
and he speaks and when he delivers a

3368
02:45:04,140 --> 02:45:01,540
story like that and it's coming from

3369
02:45:06,270 --> 02:45:04,150
Terry you have to stop and listen you

3370
02:45:08,420 --> 02:45:06,280
know and that's that's that's the way

3371
02:45:12,030 --> 02:45:08,430
that I take Terry on this oh I wanted to

3372
02:45:13,890 --> 02:45:12,040
I wanted you to I want to get this in

3373
02:45:15,350 --> 02:45:13,900
before we do run out of time I'll be off

3374
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:15,360
the network here in a few minutes is

3375
02:45:22,230 --> 02:45:18,640
you've had a lot of contact you've seen

3376
02:45:26,011 --> 02:45:22,240
a lot of things I want you to share with

3377
02:45:29,910 --> 02:45:26,021
us the one thing that you saw that you

3378
02:45:31,560 --> 02:45:29,920
witnessed for us because I've seen lots

3379
02:45:33,990 --> 02:45:31,570
of things I share these stories all the

3380
02:45:37,590 --> 02:45:34,000
time but I don't think I've ever heard

3381
02:45:39,660 --> 02:45:37,600
you talk about this so what what's the

3382
02:45:44,940 --> 02:45:39,670
one experience that you you can share

3383
02:45:47,580 --> 02:45:44,950
with us I'm not sure what this is one

3384
02:45:50,130 --> 02:45:47,590
experience that I didn't in my life do

3385
02:45:55,801 --> 02:45:50,140
you talk about I'm talking about et UFOs

3386
02:45:58,680 --> 02:45:55,811
contact what have I not shared about

3387
02:46:01,740 --> 02:45:58,690
that you know it's hard for me to

3388
02:46:06,780 --> 02:46:01,750
remember I have an implant in my arm and

3389
02:46:09,150 --> 02:46:06,790
a birthmark and I believe I'm a my lab I

3390
02:46:11,400 --> 02:46:09,160
tried to tell people about that I I was

3391
02:46:12,530 --> 02:46:11,410
born in a military hospital on Moffett

3392
02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:12,540
Field

3393
02:46:18,750 --> 02:46:16,570
Palo Alto I don't know that might be a

3394
02:46:21,480 --> 02:46:18,760
little bit interesting for people that

3395
02:46:23,340 --> 02:46:21,490
haven't heard that one trying to think

3396
02:46:25,110 --> 02:46:23,350
you know I told I've told the reptilian

3397
02:46:28,980 --> 02:46:25,120
story you know that I was going into a

3398
02:46:32,130 --> 02:46:28,990
meditation and I saw Shekhar which is

3399
02:46:34,410 --> 02:46:32,140
the reptilians that fly at the time I

3400
02:46:37,320 --> 02:46:34,420
didn't I had seen the movie v and this

3401
02:46:39,150 --> 02:46:37,330
is the earlier or TV show the earlier TV

3402
02:46:41,910 --> 02:46:39,160
version you know this is years ago right

3403
02:46:44,100 --> 02:46:41,920
and I didn't believe that rep I thought

3404
02:46:46,530 --> 02:46:44,110
that's ridiculous they would not have a

3405
02:46:49,890 --> 02:46:46,540
being like those reptilians there is no

3406
02:46:52,230 --> 02:46:49,900
way and then actually going into

3407
02:46:55,261 --> 02:46:52,240
meditation I actually tripped into an

3408
02:46:58,290 --> 02:46:55,271
interdimensional kind of a world I was

3409
02:47:01,380 --> 02:46:58,300
wide awake and I saw this being and he

3410
02:47:03,511 --> 02:47:01,390
saw me and he flew by and he wanted me

3411
02:47:06,870 --> 02:47:03,521
to see him and he was a consciousness

3412
02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:06,880
and I had no money you know I had never

3413
02:47:11,670 --> 02:47:08,800
even thought of those beings and

3414
02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:11,680
certainly not with wings you know so all

3415
02:47:16,801 --> 02:47:14,530
I can tell you is from then on I didn't

3416
02:47:20,551 --> 02:47:16,811
question whether there were reptilians

3417
02:47:22,410 --> 02:47:20,561
in the world okay and that they exist I

3418
02:47:25,950 --> 02:47:22,420
certainly know that they can go in or

3419
02:47:30,360 --> 02:47:25,960
dimensional I can say that much you know

3420
02:47:33,750 --> 02:47:30,370
I I had a sort of dream vision in which

3421
02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:33,760
I saw this horrible kind of like being

3422
02:47:40,770 --> 02:47:37,090
standing in line and my you might say

3423
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:40,780
it's a terrible metaphor but he was

3424
02:47:47,520 --> 02:47:43,690
standing in line at the cafeteria at JPL

3425
02:47:50,761 --> 02:47:47,530
now I I had this I wasn't at JPL working

3426
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:50,771
there anymore but and he had this white

3427
02:47:54,900 --> 02:47:52,930
you know how the underside of a snake

3428
02:47:57,660 --> 02:47:54,910
has these white sort of

3429
02:47:59,820 --> 02:47:57,670
but it looks really kind of I can't

3430
02:48:02,610 --> 02:47:59,830
describe it exactly it's sort of there

3431
02:48:04,980 --> 02:48:02,620
in wines yeah scales but it's really

3432
02:48:07,801 --> 02:48:04,990
smooth scales right the soft white

3433
02:48:10,530 --> 02:48:07,811
underbelly yeah that's the kind of skin

3434
02:48:14,580 --> 02:48:10,540
he had you know and he was tall and

3435
02:48:18,480 --> 02:48:14,590
really pale looked at me very sinister

3436
02:48:20,640 --> 02:48:18,490
guy wait hold on hold on hold on this is

3437
02:48:23,370 --> 02:48:20,650
this is very interesting so this is

3438
02:48:27,500 --> 02:48:23,380
after you were contracting at JPL you

3439
02:48:34,051 --> 02:48:27,510
were not there but you saw this being a

3440
02:48:36,841 --> 02:48:34,061
JPL in the cafeteria a dream yeah that's

3441
02:48:40,261 --> 02:48:36,851
what I'm saying yes right very

3442
02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:40,271
interesting now do you think that this

3443
02:48:44,660 --> 02:48:43,120
is I love this see I get to turn this

3444
02:48:48,270 --> 02:48:44,670
around on Kari

3445
02:48:51,591 --> 02:48:48,280
do you think that he was that this was a

3446
02:48:57,060 --> 02:48:51,601
representation of something that was a

3447
02:48:59,280 --> 02:48:57,070
reptilian that was an employee of JPL

3448
02:49:04,860 --> 02:48:59,290
right that you're seeing him in his real

3449
02:49:08,131 --> 02:49:04,870
form that's interesting I don't know I

3450
02:49:10,620 --> 02:49:08,141
do know that he was you know that he

3451
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:10,630
looked at me I do know that it wasn't

3452
02:49:18,600 --> 02:49:14,800
really a dream what was I don't know how

3453
02:49:22,500 --> 02:49:18,610
to classify it right so I can't tell you

3454
02:49:26,910 --> 02:49:22,510
whether he was in his true form he could

3455
02:49:31,530 --> 02:49:26,920
pass for human okay but look I think he

3456
02:49:36,841 --> 02:49:31,540
I think he was bald ish as well so you

3457
02:49:38,520 --> 02:49:36,851
know look JPL is NASA and I'm sure they

3458
02:49:40,200 --> 02:49:38,530
have lots of reptilians I was just gonna

3459
02:49:42,390 --> 02:49:40,210
say we can go on the record now Kerry

3460
02:49:46,020 --> 02:49:42,400
Cassidy says that JPL is run by

3461
02:49:48,180 --> 02:49:46,030
reptilians well it's not run well it

3462
02:49:49,950 --> 02:49:48,190
might be reptilians actually but

3463
02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:49,960
according to William Tompkins you know

3464
02:49:53,850 --> 02:49:52,090
it's a it's sort of a war between the

3465
02:49:56,100 --> 02:49:53,860
reptilians and the Pleiadians who's

3466
02:49:57,960 --> 02:49:56,110
really running the place but I'm sure

3467
02:50:02,070 --> 02:49:57,970
the humans have a vote at this point as

3468
02:50:04,320 --> 02:50:02,080
well and the Nazis are right in there

3469
02:50:07,350 --> 02:50:04,330
you know and some of those Nazis are

3470
02:50:08,460 --> 02:50:07,360
reptilians so you know it's yeah it's a

3471
02:50:12,559 --> 02:50:08,470
cornucopia

3472
02:50:17,760 --> 02:50:12,569
of choices you said to me you said to me

3473
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:17,770
many years ago you said that we are all

3474
02:50:21,690 --> 02:50:20,080
time travelers this is during a phone

3475
02:50:23,550 --> 02:50:21,700
call everybody unless at night and I

3476
02:50:25,679 --> 02:50:23,560
said to caracal what do you mean I'm not

3477
02:50:29,519 --> 02:50:25,689
a time traveler and you go yes you are

3478
02:50:31,590 --> 02:50:29,529
Jimmy and and I always I always

3479
02:50:33,929 --> 02:50:31,600
remembered that but what I would like

3480
02:50:37,309 --> 02:50:33,939
for you to do is is what did you mean

3481
02:50:40,740 --> 02:50:37,319
that we are all time travelers

3482
02:50:44,130 --> 02:50:40,750
well time time is base or an illusion

3483
02:50:47,880 --> 02:50:44,140
time and space there's space time and

3484
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:47,890
time space and they intersect and you

3485
02:50:50,670 --> 02:50:49,120
know you could look at the work of

3486
02:50:52,920 --> 02:50:50,680
Richard Alan Miller and I know you've

3487
02:50:55,440 --> 02:50:52,930
had him on your show a lot and he talks

3488
02:50:57,059 --> 02:50:55,450
about the reality is that our

3489
02:51:00,150 --> 02:50:57,069
consciousness kind of comes to that

3490
02:51:05,880 --> 02:51:00,160
point that intersection point where time

3491
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:05,890
and space connect and in a sense what

3492
02:51:10,590 --> 02:51:07,840
physicists will also tell you is that

3493
02:51:13,620 --> 02:51:10,600
time and space is an illusion if that's

3494
02:51:18,380 --> 02:51:13,630
true and at the same time they can say

3495
02:51:22,590 --> 02:51:18,390
that this is all one then in essence

3496
02:51:25,349 --> 02:51:22,600
time as we think of it is only linear in

3497
02:51:29,010 --> 02:51:25,359
our brain to be played out in this kind

3498
02:51:31,679 --> 02:51:29,020
of this game this board game we call a

3499
02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:31,689
hologram that involves earth and all the

3500
02:51:36,809 --> 02:51:33,760
other planets and various ETS and so and

3501
02:51:39,599 --> 02:51:36,819
so forth so various levels

3502
02:51:43,170 --> 02:51:39,609
you know dimensions and densities etc so

3503
02:51:45,599 --> 02:51:43,180
in other words at play in the fields of

3504
02:51:49,500 --> 02:51:45,609
the Lord is one saying you could kind of

3505
02:51:52,320 --> 02:51:49,510
generalize in the sense we are all like

3506
02:51:56,099 --> 02:51:52,330
at the moment now even I mean I'm gonna

3507
02:51:58,110 --> 02:51:56,109
fly to the UK in for Christmas I will be

3508
02:52:00,630 --> 02:51:58,120
time-traveling I'll be traveling through

3509
02:52:02,460 --> 02:52:00,640
time when I get to the UK I will skip

3510
02:52:04,080 --> 02:52:02,470
over a certain amount of time and I'll

3511
02:52:07,769 --> 02:52:04,090
be in a different day in a different

3512
02:52:10,860 --> 02:52:07,779
time right and that's time-traveling so

3513
02:52:15,059 --> 02:52:10,870
if you can time travel in a jet then

3514
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:15,069
what the heck do you think you can do in

3515
02:52:22,260 --> 02:52:17,680
a UFO going from here to the moon or

3516
02:52:22,510 --> 02:52:22,270
folding time-space you know or going you

3517
02:52:26,620 --> 02:52:22,520
know

3518
02:52:28,960 --> 02:52:26,630
interdimensional going interstellar you

3519
02:52:31,059 --> 02:52:28,970
know when you look at a star they say

3520
02:52:34,019 --> 02:52:31,069
the time all this kind of thing about

3521
02:52:36,969 --> 02:52:34,029
it's actually you're seeing the past

3522
02:52:39,670 --> 02:52:36,979
happening you know millions of years ago

3523
02:52:44,290 --> 02:52:39,680
or something in other words we ourselves

3524
02:52:47,319 --> 02:52:44,300
are reincarnated so we live through

3525
02:52:50,349 --> 02:52:47,329
various times that makes us a time

3526
02:52:52,660 --> 02:52:50,359
traveler when you go to sleep at night

3527
02:52:55,359 --> 02:52:52,670
you can easily travel back in time

3528
02:53:00,460 --> 02:52:55,369
forward in time you know this is what

3529
02:53:03,939 --> 02:53:00,470
Precog events are and so on so I mean

3530
02:53:06,399 --> 02:53:03,949
we're always traveling in time you know

3531
02:53:09,040 --> 02:53:06,409
it's just part of what we do it's just

3532
02:53:13,330 --> 02:53:09,050
as natural as you know as putting on

3533
02:53:14,950 --> 02:53:13,340
clothes do you find that because of the

3534
02:53:19,090 --> 02:53:14,960
amount of influence you have out there

3535
02:53:22,899 --> 02:53:19,100
and so many are ready to two pounds do

3536
02:53:26,819 --> 02:53:22,909
you do you watch what you say do you run

3537
02:53:29,559 --> 02:53:26,829
with the filter no you don't care I

3538
02:53:31,750 --> 02:53:29,569
can't you tell I mean I'm sorry I you

3539
02:53:34,840 --> 02:53:31,760
know I I it's really hard for me not to

3540
02:53:39,370 --> 02:53:34,850
swear because I don't have a filter that

3541
02:53:43,929 --> 02:53:39,380
much so I you know all I can say is that

3542
02:53:46,979 --> 02:53:43,939
I kind of I trust in I trust in myself

3543
02:53:49,240 --> 02:53:46,989
and I trust in this sort of greater good

3544
02:53:52,809 --> 02:53:49,250
I'm one of those people who actually

3545
02:53:55,779 --> 02:53:52,819
believe that humanity is good at root

3546
02:53:58,540 --> 02:53:55,789
rather than evil and bad

3547
02:54:01,510 --> 02:53:58,550
I think being told were bad and sinners

3548
02:54:04,330 --> 02:54:01,520
is an overlay it's a lie it's it's it's

3549
02:54:06,250 --> 02:54:04,340
a way of getting us to to not believe in

3550
02:54:10,990 --> 02:54:06,260
ourselves and also to take the planet

3551
02:54:13,149 --> 02:54:11,000
away you know mice's you know it's the

3552
02:54:15,490 --> 02:54:13,159
King syndrome I mean see the Anunnaki

3553
02:54:17,290 --> 02:54:15,500
did it you know a eat ages ago and

3554
02:54:18,880 --> 02:54:17,300
people still read the Bible and believe

3555
02:54:21,309 --> 02:54:18,890
these guys are telling them the truth

3556
02:54:24,040 --> 02:54:21,319
I mean it's completely not it's a

3557
02:54:27,219 --> 02:54:24,050
playbook it's nonsense you know it's it

3558
02:54:29,170 --> 02:54:27,229
you can change reality and if we decide

3559
02:54:31,840 --> 02:54:29,180
to be on another timeline then we

3560
02:54:34,510 --> 02:54:31,850
frickin will and we are very powerful

3561
02:54:36,461 --> 02:54:34,520
together when we link up into a field of

3562
02:54:39,281 --> 02:54:36,471
resonance like we're doing tonight

3563
02:54:42,341 --> 02:54:39,291
right and it's it's very exciting it's

3564
02:54:44,890 --> 02:54:42,351
not me it's not you it's all of us

3565
02:54:47,261 --> 02:54:44,900
that's the power it's just you know I

3566
02:54:49,421 --> 02:54:47,271
happen to be voicing it but I'm voicing

3567
02:54:51,881 --> 02:54:49,431
what's in the hearts and souls of the

3568
02:54:54,520 --> 02:54:51,891
people that you know that follow my work

3569
02:54:56,890 --> 02:54:54,530
because they're already there you know

3570
02:55:01,451 --> 02:54:56,900
all they just want to hear it out loud

3571
02:55:03,640 --> 02:55:01,461
in this reality what and I want to thank

3572
02:55:06,491 --> 02:55:03,650
you Carrie is a unbelievably great

3573
02:55:09,341 --> 02:55:06,501
conversation tonight what what night do

3574
02:55:12,911 --> 02:55:09,351
you broadcast and where can everybody go

3575
02:55:15,671 --> 02:55:12,921
and find you okay well I broadcast

3576
02:55:17,980 --> 02:55:15,681
usually I'm supposed to broadcast

3577
02:55:20,801 --> 02:55:17,990
Wednesdays and Thursday nights at 7:00

3578
02:55:25,480 --> 02:55:20,811
p.m. Pacific time on YouTube on my

3579
02:55:27,520 --> 02:55:25,490
channel and I also broadcast on Fridays

3580
02:55:29,291 --> 02:55:27,530
at 1:00 1:00 p.m. Pacific time the

3581
02:55:31,711 --> 02:55:29,301
reason I do different broadcasts at

3582
02:55:34,121 --> 02:55:31,721
different times is to accommodate

3583
02:55:36,461 --> 02:55:34,131
whistleblowers and truth tellers that

3584
02:55:39,161 --> 02:55:36,471
don't live in the United States they

3585
02:55:41,890 --> 02:55:39,171
might live overseas or they can't make

3586
02:55:44,861 --> 02:55:41,900
certain times so I do vary it like

3587
02:55:49,600 --> 02:55:44,871
Monday which is this no this is Tuesday

3588
02:55:51,881 --> 02:55:49,610
I did two interviews and they were with

3589
02:55:54,161 --> 02:55:51,891
people from overseas I did a roundtable

3590
02:55:57,011 --> 02:55:54,171
discussion at 10:00 a.m. and I'm not a

3591
02:56:00,100 --> 02:55:57,021
morning person God saved me when I have

3592
02:56:04,331 --> 02:56:00,110
to do that right and the other one was

3593
02:56:06,071 --> 02:56:04,341
with Tony Gosling and he's in the UK you

3594
02:56:08,591 --> 02:56:06,081
know it's it's late at night there and

3595
02:56:11,801 --> 02:56:08,601
and we talked around 2:00 or 3:00 in the

3596
02:56:14,261 --> 02:56:11,811
afternoon so you know I I do I'm

3597
02:56:16,331 --> 02:56:14,271
flexible and if something really

3598
02:56:18,031 --> 02:56:16,341
important comes up I'll go live that

3599
02:56:20,350 --> 02:56:18,041
minute you know what I'm saying so

3600
02:56:22,781 --> 02:56:20,360
because I have a YouTube channel and

3601
02:56:27,671 --> 02:56:22,791
because I can reach social media in an

3602
02:56:30,671 --> 02:56:27,681
instant that allows me a lot of leeway

3603
02:56:32,261 --> 02:56:30,681
and I also have a you know a long time

3604
02:56:37,801 --> 02:56:32,271
ago I had a college professor who

3605
02:56:43,720 --> 02:56:37,811
basically said actually it was it was a

3606
02:56:46,001 --> 02:56:43,730
this this radical seal trying to

3607
02:56:50,319 --> 02:56:46,011
remember his name I think was it might

3608
02:56:52,329 --> 02:56:50,329
have been Bobby Seale who who was a

3609
02:56:54,909 --> 02:56:52,339
radical at the time he came to speak of

3610
02:56:57,609 --> 02:56:54,919
my college he said if I reach one person

3611
02:57:00,339 --> 02:56:57,619
in this audience today I'll have done my

3612
02:57:02,199 --> 02:57:00,349
job and you know I was really impressed

3613
02:57:04,659 --> 02:57:02,209
with that cuz you know he was a very

3614
02:57:07,719 --> 02:57:04,669
cool guy he was talking about very

3615
02:57:09,489 --> 02:57:07,729
important things back in that day and I

3616
02:57:11,709 --> 02:57:09,499
just thought you know I'm gonna remember

3617
02:57:13,629 --> 02:57:11,719
that and I hope I can keep that with me

3618
02:57:15,489 --> 02:57:13,639
you know no matter where I go or what I

3619
02:57:18,010 --> 02:57:15,499
do because I think that's a really

3620
02:57:20,349 --> 02:57:18,020
beautiful thing to think and so I don't

3621
02:57:23,139 --> 02:57:20,359
worry I have numbers but I don't worry

3622
02:57:27,219 --> 02:57:23,149
about numbers numbers don't mean a hell

3623
02:57:30,369 --> 02:57:27,229
of a lot to me you know I I just I'm

3624
02:57:33,300 --> 02:57:30,379
just doing what I love and I want people

3625
02:57:36,729 --> 02:57:33,310
to do what they love and I think that

3626
02:57:38,589 --> 02:57:36,739
reaching people if you do reach one

3627
02:57:41,769 --> 02:57:38,599
person it does get out there because

3628
02:57:44,579 --> 02:57:41,779
we're amazing you know we do share with

3629
02:57:48,369 --> 02:57:44,589
each other and we have a natural

3630
02:57:50,859 --> 02:57:48,379
proclivity to do that and that's one of

3631
02:57:53,979 --> 02:57:50,869
the wonderful things about humans thank

3632
02:57:56,429 --> 02:57:53,989
you so much Kerry and we went right up

3633
02:57:59,379 --> 02:57:56,439
to it I've got to run credits and our

3634
02:58:01,239 --> 02:57:59,389
holiday party carry for fade to black is

3635
02:58:03,760 --> 02:58:01,249
at the rainbow Bar and Grill on December

3636
02:58:05,829 --> 02:58:03,770
26 the day after Christmas if you're in

3637
02:58:10,989 --> 02:58:05,839
town wow you should come by and hang out

3638
02:58:14,739 --> 02:58:10,999
with all of us there you go Kerry

3639
02:58:17,439 --> 02:58:14,749
Cassidy it is Project Camelot portal

3640
02:58:20,139 --> 02:58:17,449
dot-com all of the other links are over

3641
02:58:22,599 --> 02:58:20,149
at Jimmy Church radio.com thank you so

3642
02:58:24,069 --> 02:58:22,609
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3643
02:58:26,550 --> 02:58:24,079
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3644
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3646
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3650
02:58:46,300 --> 02:58:43,009
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3652
02:58:49,659 --> 02:58:47,959
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02:58:51,789 --> 02:58:49,669
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3654
02:58:52,930 --> 02:58:51,799
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3655
02:58:54,520 --> 02:58:52,940
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3656
02:58:56,200 --> 02:58:54,530
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3657
02:58:58,511 --> 02:58:56,210
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3658
02:59:01,060 --> 02:58:58,521
here Jimmy Church tomorrow night

3659
02:59:05,081 --> 02:59:01,070
Tyler Lochner right here from secure

3660
02:59:09,660 --> 02:59:05,091
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